William Hindman
wdhindman at bellsouth.net
Fri Mar 14 12:40:01 CST 2003
...where there is a will there is a way ...have a great vacation ...um ...business trip!!!!!! :)))))) William Hindman "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." John F. Kennedy, 1961 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru> To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: "Chevaux de frise" of free world... > Hi All, > > We made it! - I've got Visum to Netherlands (Shengen States) for myself and > my two kids for twenty days today! I fly to Amsterdam on 20 March 2003. I > plan to visit also Hamburg, Ghent, Brugge, Brussels, Paris etc. I go back > home on 03 of April 2003. > > Without your great moral support and hints of Marty I would have not had > Visum today... > And of course Onno van Shelven who is not on the list these days but who I > contact from time to time with was the main helping hand - he helped me to > define a concept and then edit/augment a letter, which I wrote and sent to > the Consul and which made this incredible bombing effect and holed > bureaucracy wall... > > Well, I had to pay second time for their services and I didn't hear any > words of excuses or something like that but all that doesn't matter when > what was almost impossible on Monday becomes a reality on Friday... > > THNX a lot again to everybody, > Have nice weekend, > Shamil :) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru> > To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 11:23 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: "Chevaux de frise" of free world... > > > > THNX Marty, > > > > I will give it another try to solve the problem without complaints - if no > > result then maybe I will go compainingt o the Head Office. But the chances > > are very high that they will not accept any of my complaints and will play > > fool - or you've any success stories when complaints helped to solve the > > situations like that mine? > > > > TIA for any additional info, > > Shamil > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca> > > To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:44 PM > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: "Chevaux de frise" of free world... > > > > > > > I would complain (umm... make a request for clarification or advice) to > > > the Head Office rather than locally. "Better to complain to the organ > > > grinder than the monkey". This is an English aphorism > > > referring to street buskers who would play a portable windup organ and > > > have a little monkey running around with a cup to collect spare change. > > > > > > Here is the mailing address for Ministry in the Hague > > > The Netherlands Ministry of Foreign Affairs > > > > > > Visitors Address: > > > Bezuidenhoutseweg 67, The Hague > > > tel. +31 70 3486486; > > > fax. + 31 70 3484848; > > > > > > The Netherlands Ministry of Foreign Affairs > > > Postal Address: > > > PO Box 20061 > > > 2500 EB The Hague > > > > > > Or email complaint page > > > > > > http://www.minbuza.nl/default.asp?CMS_ITEM=5A764C199D984EB288FB2B58766A3E25X > > 2X55346X5 > > > or > > > > > > If you have any questions, please check the Frequently Asked Questions > > > first. If you have still not found an answer to your question, then you > > > can call the Communication department on weekdays from 9 a.m. to 12:30 > > > p.m. and from 1:30 p.m. to 4:30 p.m. on +31 (0)70 370 3124. > > > see: in english Visa Applications > > > > > > http://www.immigratiedienst.nl/ > > > > > > Probably a phone call to their communication department in external > > > affairs for clarification would quickly resolve the matter. They aren't > > > clear on their forms about very short business trips or actually working > > > for a company on a 3 month contract or a business man who goes to > > > Holland to solicit business and takes along his wife so she can shop or > > > sitesee or a technician who goes to Holland to repair a machine. A 10 > > > minute phone call to Europe from Canada only costs a little over a > dollar, > > > I don't know about your costs. > > > > > > Also when you applied, Holland was going through a National election > > > where one of the major topics was Illegal Immigration and assylum > > > seekers. So there may have been political direction to be hesitant or > > > over zealous in the checking of visas, to avoid political embarassment > > > to the powers that be, during the election period. > > > > > > This wasn't hard for me to check up. I was a Civil (Silly) Servant for a > > > few years and can find my way around . You do learn skills as a civil > > > servant. Things like reading upside down and backwards > > > so you can read a letter on a desk you are not supposed to see. I can > > > carry two passports EU and Canadian and still get into trouble over > > > there with the regulations. > > > > > > > > > Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote: > > > > > > >THNX for your info Marty! > > > >Very much appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> it isn't worth the hassle to complain > > > >>about some minor functionary or bureaucrat > > > >> > > > >> > > > >OK, I decided to reapply for the Visum if they are asking to do so but > > I'd > > > >like to have some documents left on my hands(unfortunately I didn't > make > > the > > > >copy of the first Visa application) > > > > > > > >I'd like to write a letter to the head of the Consulate-General with > > request > > > >for their help of solving this small misapprehension ASAP - how should > I > > > >proceed with them to let me to pass this letter to him and to allow me > to > > > >meet with him/his representative and to officially register my letter > > with > > > >help request and explanation (my vision) of situation (of course > without > > any > > > >complaints)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>filling in a Green Card lottery form for permanent > > > >>residence in US (odds 1:100) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >You propose me to immigrate to the States? A plenty of work there and a > > room > > > >for five people? - I still prefer to stay here in Russia and find a way > > to > > > >freely travel around the World - should be doable but needs some time > to > > > >solve this without immigration to the States... > > > > > > > >Shamil > > > > > > <<< tail skipped for brevity >>> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >