Jim Lawrence (AccessD)
accessd at shaw.ca
Fri Mar 14 19:37:01 CST 2003
Congratulations... Persistance wins everytime. If you should make it to this side of the pond, you and your family could travel for a couple of months and not have to stay in a hotel. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:17 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: "Chevaux de frise" of free world... Hi All, We made it! - I've got Visum to Netherlands (Shengen States) for myself and my two kids for twenty days today! I fly to Amsterdam on 20 March 2003. I plan to visit also Hamburg, Ghent, Brugge, Brussels, Paris etc. I go back home on 03 of April 2003. Without your great moral support and hints of Marty I would have not had Visum today... And of course Onno van Shelven who is not on the list these days but who I contact from time to time with was the main helping hand - he helped me to define a concept and then edit/augment a letter, which I wrote and sent to the Consul and which made this incredible bombing effect and holed bureaucracy wall... Well, I had to pay second time for their services and I didn't hear any words of excuses or something like that but all that doesn't matter when what was almost impossible on Monday becomes a reality on Friday... THNX a lot again to everybody, Have nice weekend, Shamil :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru> To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: "Chevaux de frise" of free world... > THNX Marty, > > I will give it another try to solve the problem without complaints - if no > result then maybe I will go compainingt o the Head Office. But the chances > are very high that they will not accept any of my complaints and will play > fool - or you've any success stories when complaints helped to solve the > situations like that mine? > > TIA for any additional info, > Shamil > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca> > To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:44 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: "Chevaux de frise" of free world... > > > > I would complain (umm... make a request for clarification or advice) to > > the Head Office rather than locally. "Better to complain to the organ > > grinder than the monkey". This is an English aphorism > > referring to street buskers who would play a portable windup organ and > > have a little monkey running around with a cup to collect spare change. > > > > Here is the mailing address for Ministry in the Hague > > The Netherlands Ministry of Foreign Affairs > > > > Visitors Address: > > Bezuidenhoutseweg 67, The Hague > > tel. +31 70 3486486; > > fax. + 31 70 3484848; > > > > The Netherlands Ministry of Foreign Affairs > > Postal Address: > > PO Box 20061 > > 2500 EB The Hague > > > > Or email complaint page > > > http://www.minbuza.nl/default.asp?CMS_ITEM=5A764C199D984EB288FB2B58766A3E25X > 2X55346X5 > > or > > > > If you have any questions, please check the Frequently Asked Questions > > first. If you have still not found an answer to your question, then you > > can call the Communication department on weekdays from 9 a.m. to 12:30 > > p.m. and from 1:30 p.m. to 4:30 p.m. on +31 (0)70 370 3124. > > see: in english Visa Applications > > > > http://www.immigratiedienst.nl/ > > > > Probably a phone call to their communication department in external > > affairs for clarification would quickly resolve the matter. They aren't > > clear on their forms about very short business trips or actually working > > for a company on a 3 month contract or a business man who goes to > > Holland to solicit business and takes along his wife so she can shop or > > sitesee or a technician who goes to Holland to repair a machine. A 10 > > minute phone call to Europe from Canada only costs a little over a dollar, > > I don't know about your costs. > > > > Also when you applied, Holland was going through a National election > > where one of the major topics was Illegal Immigration and assylum > > seekers. So there may have been political direction to be hesitant or > > over zealous in the checking of visas, to avoid political embarassment > > to the powers that be, during the election period. > > > > This wasn't hard for me to check up. I was a Civil (Silly) Servant for a > > few years and can find my way around . You do learn skills as a civil > > servant. Things like reading upside down and backwards > > so you can read a letter on a desk you are not supposed to see. I can > > carry two passports EU and Canadian and still get into trouble over > > there with the regulations. > > > > > > Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote: > > > > >THNX for your info Marty! > > >Very much appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > > >> it isn't worth the hassle to complain > > >>about some minor functionary or bureaucrat > > >> > > >> > > >OK, I decided to reapply for the Visum if they are asking to do so but > I'd > > >like to have some documents left on my hands(unfortunately I didn't make > the > > >copy of the first Visa application) > > > > > >I'd like to write a letter to the head of the Consulate-General with > request > > >for their help of solving this small misapprehension ASAP - how should I > > >proceed with them to let me to pass this letter to him and to allow me to > > >meet with him/his representative and to officially register my letter > with > > >help request and explanation (my vision) of situation (of course without > any > > >complaints)? > > > > > > > > > > > >>filling in a Green Card lottery form for permanent > > >>residence in US (odds 1:100) > > >> > > >> > > >You propose me to immigrate to the States? A plenty of work there and a > room > > >for five people? - I still prefer to stay here in Russia and find a way > to > > >freely travel around the World - should be doable but needs some time to > > >solve this without immigration to the States... > > > > > >Shamil > > > > <<< tail skipped for brevity >>> > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com