[AccessD] Tech books ...

Tom Adams tomadatn at bellsouth.net
Fri Mar 21 11:23:25 CST 2003


To semi-quote Mark Twain ...

"When I was 18 my dad was the dumbest person on the face of the earth.
  When I was 22 he had made considerable progress."


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Tech books ...


> Jim:
> 
> Some solace...they do get better. At eighteen (it actually extended from
> about twelve on) I was as dumb as a stump and at twenty-three she is now
> working with me.
> 
> HTH
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-admin at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 6:54 AM
> To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Tech books ...
> 
> 
> 
> I concur with Tom on several points, I'd like to add a few.
> 
> 1.  Good coding examples would be very helpful.  Simple examples are useful
> only to give a rudimentary idea of what is being explained, but it doesn't
> help when trying to implement a solution.
> 
> 2.  I have yet to find a book that explains treeviews.  Arthur Fuller wrote
> an article about it awhile back and it is the best I have seen.  The last
> book I bought didn't even discuss treeviews even though it's touted as a
> "comprehensive reference" for Access with 1600 pages and 2 CDs!
> 
> 3.  If a CD is included make sure it works!  The book I bought was supposed
> to have samples of the code and example databases to put into practice what
> was discussed by each chapter.  Some of the examples didn't work or were not
> included on the CD.  I contacted the author, the publisher, and visited the
> web site and still didn't get the correct files.
> 
> Tom also mentioned his first born child and that "she's a teenager and
> that's a punishment worse than death to inflict on anyone."  My teenage
> daughter just turned 18 - she seems to be getting worse!  What makes her
> think that a date on the calendar gives her wisdom?  She seems to think I
> get dumber every day!
> 
> Oh well, this too shall pass.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Adams [mailto:tomadatn at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 8:25 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Tech books ...
> 
> 
> To the whizzes that write books in this list.
> 
> A recent post that said they learned better from examples than from reading
> books brought up a point I've been meaning to make.  I
> know the publishers push you to include all Access user levels in your books
> so more will sell.  However that means that 80% of the
> book is useless for moderate to advanced readers.
> 
> There are two points I'd like to point out (neither of which has a chance of
> making it).
> 1.  Have a few overly documented examples if you will - but include a bunch
> of heavy duty
>      code for examples for the advanced programmers - with little or no
> comments.  The documented
>      examples in books are usually too simple to be very useful.  Real code
> will teach most
>      developers without the comments.
> 
> 2.  As there are millions of Excel and Access power users through developers
> - and sometimes they
>      will be doing other apps - eg. Excel to Access, Excel to VB, Access to
> VB and/or VB to Access,
>      Access to Sql Server and Sql Server to Jet - consider writing a From X
> to Y Dictionary.  Eg.
>      From Access to VB, From Jet to Sql Server, etc.
> 
>      I've moved into VB for the last 6 months and would have paid almost
> anything for an Access to Vb
>      book.  Eg. Combo Box.  What a pain in VB.  Can't tell you how long this
> took me to figure out.
>      Makes me want to find one of the Access guys at Microsoft and give them
> my first born child (I
>      know, I know - she's a teenager and that's a punishment worse than
> death to inflict on anyone but
>      the thought is grateful.)
> 
>      I find that I know exactly what I want to do in Access but the
> differences are often difficult to figure
>      out.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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