MartyConnelly
martyconnelly at shaw.ca
Fri Mar 28 16:42:03 CST 2003
A lot of small companies snap up MCSD's, so they can maintain their Microsoft Certified Partners status. They need at least two on staff and some number of MCP's. So I can see that as a requirement in staffing certain positions or perhaps bidding on contracts. ie you bid on a contract and say you are an MCP. Porter, Mark wrote: >Regarding the qualifications comments, it's not just the corporate world. I >just had to pass on bidding a contract because in the RFP it was specified >that the VB developer hold a MCSD and 5 years experience. Further education >or experience was not substitutable for the cert. > >The scope of the job didn't warrant 5 years experience, let alone a cert. I >do not even know anyone in my area with the MCSD that I could pass it on to >either. > >I do hope this isn't an indicator of a trend. > >Mark > >-----Original Message----- >From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] >Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 7:22 PM >To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' >Subject: RE: Re[2]: [AccessD] OT:Building your business was... Rate for >fi rst tim e > > >Ron, I am in a similar situation, though I do contract stuff on the side, >and work a LOT more hours (well, I used too, lately I have only worked 45 >hours a week). > >I am a little over your 'argument's sake' salary, if I only work 40 hours a >week. I consider myself to be making about 60% of what I should be making. >However, with the current job market, it's extremely difficult to find other >work. In fact, I just was turned down for a job recently. Right now the >market is flooded with all sorts of IT folks, and most of them have degrees >and certifications. I have very little faith in either of those, >personally. However, even though most companies are hiring off of >experience versus quals, it seems as if they are paying more for quals then >knowledge/capabilities. I'm afraid that's just part of the business world. >It's hard to nail down, but I'm pretty sure the problem lies with Accounts >in general. They find it nearly impossible to quantify someone's value by >their knowledge or capabilities, however, it is very easy for them to >quantify someones education. > >For example, have you ever seen a salary comparison sheet that showed >something like this: > >Knowledge: >Salary: >Genius. Can't stump this guy/girl. >$250,000 >Extremely smart, learns everything thrown at him/her. >$180,000 >Pretty smart, knows what he's paid to do and a little more. >$110,000 >Smart, knows his/her job. >$70,000 >Average, can do his/her job as long as there are instructions. $40,000 >A little slow, needs to constantly be shown what to do. $25,000 >Pretty stupid, can barely do his/her job with lots of help. >$10,000 >Dumb as a post, can barely tie his/her shoes. >-$1,000 > >Of course you haven't seen a salary list like that. Instead, salary lists >are made up of a job title, along with certifications and degrees. >Obviously a perfect system! <evil grin>. > >What I like most about being employed full time though, is I get to work on >random stuff during idle time (when there is idle time), so I am constantly >learning! > >Drew > ><snip> >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >This transmittal may contain confidential information intended solely for >the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby >notified that you have received this transmittal in error; any review, >dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal is strictly >prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify >us immediately by reply or by telephone (collect at 907-564-1000) and ask to >speak with the message sender. In addition, please immediately delete this >message and all attachments. Thank you. >_______________________________________________ >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >