Bruce Bruen's email Client Was: RE: [AccessD]OT:^%$&^%(*&)(*&)%$&#$^%$@

Wish that it did....

It was just one thing I tried in order to get around it - without joy.  

I am currently, amongst other things, "learning" "Outlook VBA" (oh OK
the outlook object models ;->).  As I have email security on "high" it
wouldn't let me run vba code unless it was from a trusted source - so I
got a verisign cert and trusted myself - I thought - ...

Seems that importing, accepting and registering the cert changed half a
dozen email settings, including send everything as plaintext.  Hohum...

While I am at it, I thought I could set a mail format for a contact that
would over-ride the default setting.  I cant find this option anymore in
Outlook XP - does anyone know where it is?

As far as our joint problem with the damn "a program is trying to do
something really useful, are you really sure that is a good idea" popup,
it looks like its insurmountable in XP and worse in Office 2003.  The
consensus is to not use the Outlook object model, i.e. MAPI or CDO, as a
base for sending mail.

M$ stupidity has even gone as far as RECOMMENDING that programmers use
3rd party means of getting around this.  AFA I'm concerned this is not
unlike leaving a note on your front door..."Dear Mr Thief,  There is a
really fierce gekko behind this door, but if you really want to break in
you can borrow the key from the neighbours".

And I gave up a promising career in biochemistry for this!

Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Colby
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 12:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: Re: Bruce Bruen's email Client Was: RE:
[AccessD]OT:^%$&^%(*&)(*&)%$&#$^%$@


Bruce,

Are you saying that using certs somehow bypasses the prompt for "do you
really really really want to..."?

John W. Colby
www.colbyconsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bruce Bruen
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 6:06 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: Re: Bruce Bruen's email Client Was: RE: [AccessD]
OT:^%$&^%(*&)(*&)%$&#$^%$@


Hmmmm..

I thought I was sending plain text. I am using Outlook XP (no mail
server)

The other day I was asking about invoking VBA procedures automatically,
during that time I came across the same feature as John Colby - the so
called outlook object model security.  During my investigation of this I
created a verisign cert and an office self cert so I could get my
outlook code to run without lowering the outlook (xp) security level.

The cert I am now usiinng should be the self cert and I therefore
presumed that it wasn't being sent.

This reply should be plain text -- if it isnt please tell me ( and how
to fix it if possible)

Sorry for the inconvenience -
Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mitsules,
Mark
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 12:46 AM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: OT: Re: Bruce Bruen's email Client Was: RE: [AccessD] OT:
^%$&^%(*&)(*&)%$&#$^%$@


Bruce,

...just curious, no flames intended, honestly, but what email client are
you using, what format are you sending your emails, and what, if
anything else are you attaching when you post to AccessD?  The reason I
ask is because with my Win2K/Outlook2K2 setup, the emails I receive from
you are 3 levels deep.  The first consists of the AccessD footer and 1
attachment ("Untitled
Attachment") with no "body".  When I open the "Untitled Attachment",
there is another blank email consisting of 2 more attachments
("ATT2303090.txt" and "smime.p7s").  If I open the "smime.p7s"
attachment, it appears to be a certificate...(which I have no problem
with).  The actual content of your email is in the "ATT2303090.txt"
attachment...whoohoo!

My question is this, is there some setting on MY machine that I can set
so it will just interpret all of this mess as just a plain textual email
response?


Thanks to all for any suggestions,


Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Bruen [mailto:bbruen at bigpond.com]
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 10:17 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: ^%$&^%(*&)(*&)%$&#$^%$@


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