Jim Lawrence (AccessD)
accessd at shaw.ca
Fri May 9 20:14:29 CDT 2003
Charlotte: Thank you for that little tip. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 2:55 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Visio w/Access Normalization I've maintained network data using Visio in the past, if that applies. Be careful about numeric values though because unless you do a lot of careful tweaking to your Visio FE shapes' properties, you'll wind up with doubles in the BE, whether that's what you wanted or not. As you might expect, doubles aren't terribly useful for MAC addresses, etc.. <G> Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD) [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 1:33 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] Visio w/Access Normalization William: Not I, but I have used it on a MS SQL a few times, it finds the schema, displays the structure and fields, I make a few changes, upload and amazingly the DB and data is still there after all is said and done. Works like the BackEnd Upgrader (BEU) from Bryan Carbonnell, Reuben Cummings and Andy Lacey but for SQL. I didn't know it could be used as a FE user interface... I would like to hear more. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 2:08 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Visio w/Access Normalization Jim...anyone ...I'm just now really getting into Visio ...has anyone here integrated it with Access in an application? ...my intent is to use it as the primary user interface with a tradeshow booth booking app and I'm looking for anyone who's done something similar. William Hindman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca> To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 5:02 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access Normalization > Hi Arthur: > > What do you think of MS Viso as a design tools? > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur > Fuller > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 5:16 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access Normalization > > > Great concept, a normalization tool! > > "Yo, dumbass, these columns should be a related table, click OK to overrule > yo dumbass design, foo!" :-) > > AFAIK no one has built it yet. > > I'm a big fan of database-design tools such as Erwin, PowerDesigner > and (my > fave lately) DeZign, which costs 1/10 of the price of the > aforementioned and > delivers almost all their functionality. Said tools can inhale a db > and turn > it into a model and let you remodel it and then exhale a db to a list > of targets, automatically converting data types etc. You can inhale > Access and > exhale MySQL if that's what you want, or Oracle or DB2 or MS-SQL or Sybase. > > When I work on a new project, I spend a lot of time in DeZign before writing > a line of code. When I work on an existing project, first thing I do > is import it into DeZign. It vaguely resembles the Access > Relationships window > but offers many more benefits, most notably Domains. > > (I own no shares in this company; I'm just a satisfied user.) > > Back to your question. If the db Admins have not granted her > sufficient privs to export definitions then there is no simple way > around it. She is asking either for hacker tools or for increased > privs. > > Secondly, why export table definitions to Excel? Why not simple ascii files > that you can run in QA to rebuild structures? > > Arthur > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gale Perez > Sent: May 8, 2003 6:46 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Access Normalization > > > Hello! > > I haven't posted for quite a while (have been working > in Oracle, am now doing project management and working > on some Access tracking DBs). It's nice to be back > and see familiar names :) > > Is there a way to export Access table definitions into > Excel or into a normalization tool (we're using > Brackets)? I'm asking on someone else's behalf and > she has tried Export but gets the message that she > doesn't have permissions (it's not a secured > database). Can you access the data dictionary with > SQL statements? > > Thank you for any assistance, > Gale > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. 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