Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
bchacc at san.rr.com
Tue May 20 09:26:16 CDT 2003
Bruce: You've convinced me. Wireless it is! :) Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Bruen" <bbruen at bigpond.com> To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 4:52 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Network over the phone lines > Try a $50 remote control 4WD model (ATV? For youse yanquies?) - we wired > 200+ points in an office building several years ago using a couple of > these - without removing the false ceiling. They have a great advantage > over nerf balls as you can make them go around things!. Also used one to > cast 240V twin core for ceiling downlights BETWEEN the ceiling and the > upper floor in our "new" 1928 built house last year. One sparky said "it > couldn't be done" without removing the original cast plaster ceilings, > another said $4500+ (for running the cable). I said "bullSh*t", and > did it myself, got a GOOD sparky to connect the cabling to the house > circuit and certify the work for $60 + 2 coffees and a couple of beers. > > The way to get cable down a cored wall is to use that plastic strapping > they use on whitegoods - as long as you can get a length of it - but > better still is the plastic jointer strip out of quickclip flooring - > you can shape the end to a blunt point and feed it UP a 1/2" or less > core, attach the cable in the ceiling space and whip it down the core in > approx 1/8 the time it takes the cat to get inside on a rainy day. > > If you DYI cat5, there is only one real tip - try not to kink the cable, > otherwise I reckon its as good as $20/metre (or yard speaker cable for > anything. Oh, and another, if you cr*p up a connection on cat5 whether > its Krone or grub screwed or whatever - cut the whole 4" off and start > again, its not worth the hassle of bad connectors. > > Have fun! Crawling in 18" high dusty, cramped, dark, lumpy (with sharp > bits) spaces is what some idiots do for a sport! > > Bruce > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Frank Tanner > III > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 7:05 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Network over the phone lines > > > Yeah. Those work well for drop ceiling. We used to > use string tied to a Nerf football...hehehe > > It can be a little more problematic in housing rafters > though, unless you have lots of space. Most houses > here in Phoenix don't have attics, so the rafters have > like 3 feet of clearance or so tops. Makes it a real > pain in the butt to string cable through....hehee > > --- MartyConnelly <martyconnelly at shaw.ca> wrote: > > Here is an article on tools and methods to use for > > difficult CAT-5 cabling. > > I really like the fly fishing rod and slingshot > > methods. > > > http://www.techrepublic.com/article.jhtml?id=r00320030218vgl01.htm&fromt > m=e101-3 > > > > Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote: > > > > >Frank: > > > > > >Thanks for the heads up. I can get CAT5 to that > > room but it will cost > > >$500-600 because of where it is. :( > > > > > >Looks like wireless for me. > > > > > >Rocky > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Frank Tanner III" <pctech at mybellybutton.com> > > >To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > >Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 5:29 AM > > >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Network over the phone > > lines > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>I highly recommend against this. Most telephone > > >>wiring in homes is CAT3 *AT BEST*. In alot of > > cases, > > >>not even that good. > > >> > > >>Most home telephone wiring is so splices and > > >>mickey-moused together that you will be lucky if > > you > > >>get any connection at all. And if you do, it will > > >>probably be spotty, at best, due to > > electromagenetic > > >>interferance from other devices. > > >> > > >>Network engineering is what I do for a living. > > I'd go > > >>wireless LONG before I'd trust home telco wiring > > for > > >>my LAN. Myself, I strung CAT5 in my house. But > > >>that's because I know how to. For most home users > > >>wireless would be a perfect fit. If you're > > worried > > >>about people leeching your bandwidth or "sniffing" > > off > > >>of your wireless LAN, there are ways to lock it > > down, > > >>simply. Will it stop the determined leech? Nope. > > >>But it would stop 90% of the leeches that are out > > >>there, because most are just looking for free > > >>bandwidth. Not to mention, I'd think you'd notice > > >>someone sitting in front of your house with a laptop....hehehee > > >> > > >>--- Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>Dear List(s): > > >>> > > >>>Got a new computer to put into a room where we > > can't > > >>>reach it with CAT-5. So I've been ready to go > > >>>wireless, except someone suggested using the > > phone > > >>>lines in the house (just as a substitute wire) > > >>>instead of wireless. Apparently, there's a > > device > > >>>that will connect the NIC and the phone jack and > > you > > >>>can use the phone wires in the house for > > networking. > > >>> > > >>>Sounds, easy, and cheap, and low tech. Anyone > > know > > >>>about this? > > >>> > > >>>MTIA > > >>> > > >>>Rocky Smolin > > >>>Beach Access Software > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>_______________________________________________ > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>AccessD mailing list > > >>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > >>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > >>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>AccessD mailing list > > >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >AccessD mailing list > > >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >