[AccessD] OT: Network over the phone lines

Elam, Debbie DElam at jenkens.com
Wed May 21 11:29:10 CDT 2003


I have 4.  Juicy tidbits only work if they direct enough attention at you to
spot them.  I need to get really close to lure them with treats.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Tanner III [mailto:pctech at mybellybutton.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Network over the phone lines


I have two ferrets now....Herding them is sorta like
herding cats....hehehe

It was easier to herd my iguanas....heheeh

--- "Wortz, Charles" <CWortz at tea.state.tx.us> wrote:
> A juicy tidbit at the spot where you want the ferret
> to go will work.
> 
> Charles Wortz
> Software Development Division
> Texas Education Agency
> 1701 N. Congress Ave
> Austin, TX 78701-1494
> 512-463-9493
> CWortz at tea.state.tx.us
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elam, Debbie [mailto:DElam at jenkens.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday 2003 May 21 08:17
> To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Network over the phone
> lines
> 
> Yes but how would you get them to stop playing with
> the cable, much less
> get them out the correct spot if at all.  I have
> heard ferrets were used
> to string cable in tight places, but I am still
> trying to figure out how
> they were trained.  Ferrets are smart, but do not
> take direction well,
> and consider anything and everything a toy.
> 
> Debbie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nancy Lytle [mailto:nancy.lytle at auatac.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 10:27 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Network over the phone
> lines
> 
> 
> On a lighter note, for those really tight places for
> stringing cables -
> walls and low ceilings-, why not use a ferret, they
> can get into the
> most unusual places, they work on the cheap, on the
> other hand they can
> be tempermental.
> 
> N Lytle :))
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On
> Behalf Of Bruce Bruen
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 8:57 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Network over the phone
> lines
> 
> 
> True enough - we only had to get across 2x4
> stringers, luckily the
> rafters/upper floor bearers (2x10) ran the other
> way.  The car
> negotiated the 2x4s without a problem.
> 
> I would NEVER suggest running data through power
> conduit.  Guess we were
> lucky again in that the house is full brick and
> there is a "fair" 10mm
> gap between the skins, the only obstacle to vertical
> drops being the
> brickies ties.  Brick veneer and etc with studded
> walls is always a
> problem for any vertical cabling - I usually have
> opted for "dress"
> conduit except in the rare cases where I felt the
> job was worth
> replastering the wall.
> 
> Bruce
> P.s. I have done it for a living.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> Behalf Of Frank Tanner
> III
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 10:37 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Network over the phone
> lines
> 
> 
> That works fine for an office build.  But RC cars
> don't work well in raftered house ceilings.  Most
> houses here use 2x6s or 2x8s for rafters.  Or at
> least
> most of the ones that I've seen.
> 
> If you're running network lines down the same
> conduit
> as electrical wiring you're violating about a dozen
> fire and safety codes.  Not to mention every basic
> rule of network wiring that there is.
> 
> Electrical wiring, ESPECIALLY two-phase and
> three-phase wiring emit large amounts of RF.  RF
> kills
> data integrity.  One of the most basic rules of
> network wiring is NEVER string your network wires
> across power conduits, junction boxes, or lighting
> fixtures.  Don't believe me?  Ask anyone that does
> it
> for a living.  You, physically, can do it, but you
> shouldn't.  You're asking for trouble.
> 
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