Charlotte Foust
cfoust at infostatsystems.com
Fri May 23 10:17:28 CDT 2003
To clean up the tidbits, of course. Gravity only works in one direction! <VBG> Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Powell, David (BBM) [mailto:david.powell at bbm.wapl.com.au] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 7:35 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Network over the phone lines If you can get the tidbits there, what's the point of using ferrets in the first place :) Regards David -----Original Message----- From: Wortz, Charles [mailto:CWortz at tea.state.tx.us] Sent: Wednesday, 21 May 2003 9:37 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Network over the phone lines A juicy tidbit at the spot where you want the ferret to go will work. Charles Wortz Software Development Division Texas Education Agency 1701 N. Congress Ave Austin, TX 78701-1494 512-463-9493 CWortz at tea.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: Elam, Debbie [mailto:DElam at jenkens.com] Sent: Wednesday 2003 May 21 08:17 To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Network over the phone lines Yes but how would you get them to stop playing with the cable, much less get them out the correct spot if at all. I have heard ferrets were used to string cable in tight places, but I am still trying to figure out how they were trained. Ferrets are smart, but do not take direction well, and consider anything and everything a toy. Debbie -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Lytle [mailto:nancy.lytle at auatac.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 10:27 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Network over the phone lines On a lighter note, for those really tight places for stringing cables - walls and low ceilings-, why not use a ferret, they can get into the most unusual places, they work on the cheap, on the other hand they can be tempermental. N Lytle :)) -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bruce Bruen Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 8:57 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Network over the phone lines True enough - we only had to get across 2x4 stringers, luckily the rafters/upper floor bearers (2x10) ran the other way. The car negotiated the 2x4s without a problem. I would NEVER suggest running data through power conduit. Guess we were lucky again in that the house is full brick and there is a "fair" 10mm gap between the skins, the only obstacle to vertical drops being the brickies ties. Brick veneer and etc with studded walls is always a problem for any vertical cabling - I usually have opted for "dress" conduit except in the rare cases where I felt the job was worth replastering the wall. Bruce P.s. I have done it for a living. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Frank Tanner III Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 10:37 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Network over the phone lines That works fine for an office build. But RC cars don't work well in raftered house ceilings. Most houses here use 2x6s or 2x8s for rafters. Or at least most of the ones that I've seen. If you're running network lines down the same conduit as electrical wiring you're violating about a dozen fire and safety codes. Not to mention every basic rule of network wiring that there is. Electrical wiring, ESPECIALLY two-phase and three-phase wiring emit large amounts of RF. RF kills data integrity. One of the most basic rules of network wiring is NEVER string your network wires across power conduits, junction boxes, or lighting fixtures. Don't believe me? Ask anyone that does it for a living. You, physically, can do it, but you shouldn't. You're asking for trouble. _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com NOTICE - This message and any attached files may contain information that is confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use by the intended recipient. 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