[AccessD] Command Line WRKGRP switch - revisited

Thu May 29 18:19:21 CDT 2003

If this is a network drive, you might be having problems for a different
reason.  We've seen network drives that are not mapped to drive letters
just become unavailable on some of our machines, with no pattern we can
identify.  One machine will be fine but a couple of others won't be able
to get at that network location with anything short of a reboot.  We've
seen that on our WinXP machines but also on a Win 2k machine after they
tweaked all our IP addresses and made them static.  Any network
locations that are mapped to drive letters are fine but those we get at
through My Network Places/Network Neighborhood -->Entire Network just
sit there an stare at us.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Porter, Mark [mailto:MPorter at acsalaska.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 3:06 PM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Command Line WRKGRP switch - revisited

Tried with the Start In box filled and clear, same result.

Shortcut works without the workgroup switch and arguement, which is
really throwing us off.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 3:00 PM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Command Line WRKGRP switch - revisited

I think the Start In box is supposed to have the path to your program
files location.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Porter, Mark [mailto:MPorter at acsalaska.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 5:47 PM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Command Line WRKGRP switch - revisited

Good point, I've noticed the 'fixit' behavior with WinXP pro shortcuts
also.

But this shortcut was built on the machine itself (WinXP with a UNC
workgroup filepath, double-quotes around each filepath like
"<msaccess.exe>" /wrkgrp "<.mdw with UNC pathing>" ".mdb file path")

I've also cleared the 'Start In' box to avoid it starting in the wrong
place.

I'm stumped.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Drew Wutka [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 2:43 PM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Command Line WRKGRP switch - revisited

Um, complete shot in the dark, but since W2k, Shortcuts have more
internal information then you think.  For instance, if you have a
shortcut pointing to something.exe on your root C: drive.  Then one day
you move that .exe to another drive or folder, W2k and up will actually
'fix' your shortcut for you.  (It's a service, so it may be turned off
or on, it can even be setup to be LAN wide).

One bad effect that myself and my co-network admin has noticed, is that
you can have problems trying to copy a network shortcut from one machine
to the next, because the shortcut is actually a shortcut to a internal
reference on your local machine, that points to the network resource, so
copying the shortcut elsewhere is giving them a shortcut to your local
internal reference/shortcut, which they may not be able to access, in
fact, it will usually try to access the same file/folder location on
your local machine. To fix this, we just made new shortcuts from
scratch.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Porter, Mark [mailto:MPorter at acsalaska.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 5:12 PM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Command Line WRKGRP switch - revisited

Thanks for the responses, which fixed a lot of the issue.  

However, on a WinXP Pro machine I'm getting an error on the /wrkgrp
switch. it is looking for the *.mdw filepath by starting in the local
documents and settings, instead of using the UNC path.

Has anyone seen/fixed this behavior?

Thanks,

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Porter, Mark [mailto:MPorter at acsalaska.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 10:11 AM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Command Line WRKGRP switch

After the responses all had the msaccess.exe executible path I recalled
that it was required with the other times that I've implemented it.

I never did know why though.  Thanks for clearing it up.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Command Line WRKGRP switch

Charles answered your question, but the reason it isn't working is
because *all* command line arguments are ignored if you do not include
the full path and filename to the Access executable in your shortcut.
Since /WRKGRP is a command line argument, it gets ignored when you only
include the database path and the workgroup and leave out the Access
executable.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: Porter, Mark [mailto:MPorter at acsalaska.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 4:39 PM
To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Command Line WRKGRP switch

I have a secured Access 2000 file format database and want to use the
/wrkgrp command line switch in a shortcut to associate with the
workgroup on startup.  This command switch is not working 
( F:\sis\CCA_App.mdb /WRKGRP "F:\sis\CCA_Workgroup.mdw" )

the user accesses the correct file but under the system.mdw workgroup.  

I've verified that the file locations and the spelling are all correct.
Any ideas?

Thanks,

Mark

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