[AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort of)

Frank Tanner III pctech at mybellybutton.com
Sat Nov 1 09:22:56 CST 2003


Switches will ALWAYS improve your speed over hubs.
Period.

Hubs SHARE the same bandwidth on all ports.  Switches
allocate the max bandwidth per port.

You are incorrect.

--- Erwin Craps <Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be> wrote:
> But switches have no sense in a 1 server environment
> because all of the
> trafic goes and comes from one point.
> Unless your clients are 100Mb and the uplink to the
> server is 1Gb.
> 
> People often believe switches will improve their
> network speed, but that
> is not always the case.
> But indeed the prices of the switches have dropped
> that you buy a switch
> at the price of a good hub these days.
> 
> Erwin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 1:55 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort
> of)
> 
> 
> Got it. I think.  Switch can route packet based on
> IP address but can't
> generate an IP address.  Yes?
> 
> Rocky
> 
> 
> Rocky
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Frank Tanner III" <pctech at mybellybutton.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem
> solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 10:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort
> of)
> 
> 
> > It is sort of half-way, but not really.
> >
> > Switches are a "generation" better.  Hubs and
> > switches, on their most basic level perform the
> same function.  They 
> > distribute network traffic.  But HOW they
> distribute that traffic is 
> > fundimentally different.
> >
> > Unless they're one of the newer layer 3 or layer 4
> > switches, they cannot perform routing functions. 
> They
> > just hand packets off from point A to point B. 
> Think
> > of them as sort of a postman.  They have an
> address
> > for each device on the network and they hand off
> each
> > piece of mail to the appropriate address.  A hub,
> > using this sama analagy would deliver the same
> piece
> > of mail to every house and the one that it
> belonged to
> > would be the one that actually reads it.
> >
> > --- Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> > <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> > > "but it's as close as I could think of without
> > > getting too technical."
> > >
> > > Thank you.  Much appreciated.  So a switch is
> like
> > > halfway between a hub and
> > > a router?
> > >
> > > Rocky
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Frank Tanner III"
> <pctech at mybellybutton.com>
> > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem
> > > solving"
> > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 7:36 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network
> (sort
> > > of)
> > >
> > >
> > > > A router and a switch are fundimentall
> different
> > > > things.
> > > >
> > > > A router does just that.  It routes network
> > > traffic.
> > > >
> > > > A switch plays "traffic cop" for a network.
> > > >
> > > > Newer switches, especially the layer 3 and
> layer 4
> > > > ones can perform both functions.This isn't an
> > > exact
> > > > definition, but it's as close as I could think
> of
> > > > without getting too technical.
> > > >
> > > > --- Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> <bchacc at san.rr.com> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Is there a difference between a switch and a
> > > router?
> > > > >
> > > > > Rocky
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Frank Tanner III"
> > > <pctech at mybellybutton.com>
> > > > > To: "Access Developers discussion and
> problem
> > > > > solving"
> > > > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 6:54 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network
> > > (sort
> > > > > of)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I recommend "hardwiring" the IP address of
> any
> > > > > device
> > > > > > or server connected to your LAN that's not
> a workstation and 
> > > > > > is virtually always on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For the price, I would also highly
> recommend
> > > > > removing
> > > > > > all hubs from your network and using them
> as doorstops.  
> > > > > > Switches have come way down in
> > > price
> > > > > and
> > > > > > have many benifits over hubs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hubs divide the bandwidth across all
> ports.
> > > Thus
> > > > > if
> > > > > > you have an 8-port 10-BaseT hub, all ports
> > > that
> > > > > are
> > > > > > processing data split that 10Mbit.  A
> switch,
> > > each
> > > > > > port gets the fill bandwidth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's not including the security issues
> > > inherent
> > > > > with
> > > > > > hubs as they broadcast all available data
> to
> > > all
> > > > > > available ports rather than to the proper
> > > > > destination
> > > > > > port.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- John Colby
> <jcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Yes, you can indeed daisy chain routers
> and SUPPOSEDLY hubs,
> 
> > > > > > > though I had no joy doing that with my
> old hub.  I am
> > > however
> > > > > daisy
> > > > > > > chaining my old 4 port
> > > > > > > router off of my new 4 port wireless
> router.
> > > > > The
> > > > > > > newer models even figure
> > > > > > > out what kind of cable you are using,
> > > crossover
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > regular.  The biggest
> > > > > > > issue there was that the router was the
> dhcp
> > > > > server
> > > > > > > so I had to turn off the
> > > > > > > old as a dhcp server and turn on the
> new.  I
> > > > > also
> > > > > > > hardwired the address of
> > > > > > > the old router to 192.168.1.2.  Daisy
> > > Chaining
> > > > > two 4
> 
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