Frank Tanner III
pctech at mybellybutton.com
Sat Nov 1 09:22:56 CST 2003
Switches will ALWAYS improve your speed over hubs. Period. Hubs SHARE the same bandwidth on all ports. Switches allocate the max bandwidth per port. You are incorrect. --- Erwin Craps <Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be> wrote: > But switches have no sense in a 1 server environment > because all of the > trafic goes and comes from one point. > Unless your clients are 100Mb and the uplink to the > server is 1Gb. > > People often believe switches will improve their > network speed, but that > is not always the case. > But indeed the prices of the switches have dropped > that you buy a switch > at the price of a good hub these days. > > Erwin > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On > Behalf Of Rocky Smolin > - Beach Access Software > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 1:55 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort > of) > > > Got it. I think. Switch can route packet based on > IP address but can't > generate an IP address. Yes? > > Rocky > > > Rocky > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Tanner III" <pctech at mybellybutton.com> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem > solving" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 10:29 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network (sort > of) > > > > It is sort of half-way, but not really. > > > > Switches are a "generation" better. Hubs and > > switches, on their most basic level perform the > same function. They > > distribute network traffic. But HOW they > distribute that traffic is > > fundimentally different. > > > > Unless they're one of the newer layer 3 or layer 4 > > switches, they cannot perform routing functions. > They > > just hand packets off from point A to point B. > Think > > of them as sort of a postman. They have an > address > > for each device on the network and they hand off > each > > piece of mail to the appropriate address. A hub, > > using this sama analagy would deliver the same > piece > > of mail to every house and the one that it > belonged to > > would be the one that actually reads it. > > > > --- Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software > > <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote: > > > "but it's as close as I could think of without > > > getting too technical." > > > > > > Thank you. Much appreciated. So a switch is > like > > > halfway between a hub and > > > a router? > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Frank Tanner III" > <pctech at mybellybutton.com> > > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem > > > solving" > > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 7:36 AM > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network > (sort > > > of) > > > > > > > > > > A router and a switch are fundimentall > different > > > > things. > > > > > > > > A router does just that. It routes network > > > traffic. > > > > > > > > A switch plays "traffic cop" for a network. > > > > > > > > Newer switches, especially the layer 3 and > layer 4 > > > > ones can perform both functions.This isn't an > > > exact > > > > definition, but it's as close as I could think > of > > > > without getting too technical. > > > > > > > > --- Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software > <bchacc at san.rr.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Is there a difference between a switch and a > > > router? > > > > > > > > > > Rocky > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Frank Tanner III" > > > <pctech at mybellybutton.com> > > > > > To: "Access Developers discussion and > problem > > > > > solving" > > > > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 6:54 AM > > > > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Wireless network > > > (sort > > > > > of) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I recommend "hardwiring" the IP address of > any > > > > > device > > > > > > or server connected to your LAN that's not > a workstation and > > > > > > is virtually always on. > > > > > > > > > > > > For the price, I would also highly > recommend > > > > > removing > > > > > > all hubs from your network and using them > as doorstops. > > > > > > Switches have come way down in > > > price > > > > > and > > > > > > have many benifits over hubs. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hubs divide the bandwidth across all > ports. > > > Thus > > > > > if > > > > > > you have an 8-port 10-BaseT hub, all ports > > > that > > > > > are > > > > > > processing data split that 10Mbit. A > switch, > > > each > > > > > > port gets the fill bandwidth. > > > > > > > > > > > > That's not including the security issues > > > inherent > > > > > with > > > > > > hubs as they broadcast all available data > to > > > all > > > > > > available ports rather than to the proper > > > > > destination > > > > > > port. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- John Colby > <jcolby at colbyconsulting.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, you can indeed daisy chain routers > and SUPPOSEDLY hubs, > > > > > > > > though I had no joy doing that with my > old hub. I am > > > however > > > > > daisy > > > > > > > chaining my old 4 port > > > > > > > router off of my new 4 port wireless > router. > > > > > The > > > > > > > newer models even figure > > > > > > > out what kind of cable you are using, > > > crossover > > > > > or > > > > > > > regular. The biggest > > > > > > > issue there was that the router was the > dhcp > > > > > server > > > > > > > so I had to turn off the > > > > > > > old as a dhcp server and turn on the > new. I > > > > > also > > > > > > > hardwired the address of > > > > > > > the old router to 192.168.1.2. Daisy > > > Chaining > > > > > two 4 > === message truncated ===