[AccessD] A2K: Allowbypasskey 4th parameter

SP1KEMAG00 SP1KEMAG00 at aol.com
Mon Nov 17 14:54:17 CST 2003


I've disabled the shift-key completely on a couple of my more recents
dbs and either used a separate admin file to lock/unlock the file and/or
built in some sort of backdoor (typically only available to my logon
id).

This has been more out of interest than to stop noisy users though - I'm
not sure there's any that even know about the shift-key let alone
anything with any tighter security!

Shaun

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Well actually I haven't been reading for a long time. After you
mentioned this doc I started reading it but there's nothing I didn't
already know. Usually I don't make use of the workgroup file because I
find a user-defined security more flexible and easier to maintain. Code
protection is not the issue for me and on the other hand I do not really
want to use the 'owner permission' stuff. The shift-key feature is
enough in combination with an mde though it would be nicer to have it
locked tight. I guess this is where VB steps in;-)

Thanks,
Eric Starkenburg

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Robert Gracie
Sent: zondag 16 november 2003 01:02
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Allowbypasskey 4th parameter



Eric,
 Ah yes, I see now... Nope your out of luck... but I guess you know that
the db is not really going to be secure...

You have read the "SECFAQ97" White papers correct?



Robert Gracie
www.servicexp.com



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Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 4:36 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Allowbypasskey 4th parameter


Thank you for the reply Robert.

Robert, I won't be able to prevend them these rights in their own newly
created empty database. So my guess is that the 4th parameter is nice
but not sufficient since from within this new empty database one would
be able to change the property of the 'secured' database or am I missing
something?


Regards,
Eric

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Sent: zaterdag 15 november 2003 21:55
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: Allowbypasskey 4th parameter


Yes, In order to keep them from changing the property you will need to
revoke admin rights from every user and group in your db.

Robert Gracie
www.servicexp.com

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Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Allowbypasskey 4th parameter


Hi All,

I have a question about the 'allowbypasskey' property and in specific
the 4th parameter when creating it (DDL).

It is mentioned that having set this parameter to 'True' only admins are
able to change the 'Allowbypasskey' property. Ofcourse this is nice to
know but my question is: if one uses an empty Access DB with the default
system.mdw and thus being an admin wouldn't it be possible to change the
property from within this new database?


TIA,
Eric Starkenburg

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