Drew Wutka
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sat Nov 22 20:38:44 CST 2003
I love everything we use from Trend, with the exception of eManager, which is a spam blocking 'add-in' for ScanMail. Don't get me wrong, it works, as well as most of the stuff I've seen out there, but that's the problem. It's not stellar! <grin> Drew -----Original Message----- From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:32 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: RE: [AccessD] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ] Drew, Thanks for the info, sounds like a rock solid server app. jb > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 7:24 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ] > > > Yes, ScanMail will scan the files within a zip file. You can even set how > deep you want it to scan (for zips within zips). I think we are set to 5 > levels. We have never blocked .zip files, and I certainly don't plan on > starting. We do block any extension that can be run off the bat, such as > .exe, .com, .bat, etc. Those are blocked simply as a buffer, since brand > new viruses aren't caught until Trend updates their patterns > (which they do > pretty fast). Once a virus is in the pattern though, it will strip it out > of zip files. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 10:03 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: RE: [AccessD] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ] > > > That's a shame. > > I would think that security and productivity should have at least equal > priority in the work place :o) > > For true security to ever happen the email security people are > going to have > to start identifying what's in a zip file rather than the fact that its a > zip file. Most AV scanners can already scan zip contents so I would think > that if a message came through with a zip attachment that the zip > attachment's contents could be scanned for problems rather than just > assuming that its a problem because its a zip. Even if they > pulled the email > aside and processed it out of stream rather than doing it directly and > clogging up the system it would be preferable to just deleting it! > > Hey Drew can Trend Micro's system do that? > > Of course if they scan the zip - then .mdbs can't be considered dangerous > either. FMS has a free virus scanner for .mdbs I wonder if its worthwhile? > If one could write a script to scan .mdbs with FMS AV scanner it could > eliminating the whole annoying process of not allowing .mdb > attachments. (Of > course I always zip my mdbs because they usually compress about 80% so I'm > back to the first argument... now I'm just babbling... > :o) > > What say we get some big company to put a bounty out on the heads of virus > writers? > ;o) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Martin Reid > > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:23 AM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ] > > > > > > Thats just how we do it in work. PITA but gets us past the email people. > > > > Martin > > > > > > > Oh, yes, there always have to have some people that overdo everything, > > > beside scanning .mdb how about not allowing .zip extensions in email?! > > Then > > > of course you have people who resort to changing the file extension on > > your > > > zipped files to .txt and instructing the person on other end to > > change it > > > back. That's good covenient security. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of > > MartyConnelly > > > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:39 AM > > > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ] > > > > > > > > > > > > Depends on what file extensions are scanned on a network > > server. I keep > > > > a special stick to poke network guys who insist on scanning > > ldb and mdb > > > > file types among others. Scanning a 300MB file on-access can bring > > > > things to a grinding halt. > > > > > > > > Stuart McLachlan wrote: > > > > > > > > >On 20 Nov 2003 at 20:40, John W. Colby wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Stuart, > > > > >> > > > > >>I personally don't say it has no place in the world. The > > unfortunate > > > > >>reality is that there are millions of machines out there used > > > > by individuals > > > > >>in their homes (or small office) who are too ignorant to run > > > > virus checkers. > > > > >>THESE users should indeed install the service patch so that > > > > they only screw > > > > >>up their own machines when the virus hits them. It simply has > > > > no place in a > > > > >>business where they should be running AV software. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >Which brings us on to another question, prompted recently by a > > > > >client. > > > > > > > > > >What is your option on running anti-virus software on network > > > > >servers? > > > > >(Assuming that you do run on-access scanning software on the > > > > >workstations) > > > > > > > > > >Note: > > > > >X-posted to <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > > > > >All follow ups to that list only. Please! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Marty Connelly > > > > Victoria, B.C. > > > > Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > AccessD mailing list > > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com