Andy Lacey
andy at minstersystems.co.uk
Sun Nov 23 04:24:46 CST 2003
Please take this thread to dba-Tech too. Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka > Sent: 23 November 2003 02:39 > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ] > > > I love everything we use from Trend, with the exception of > eManager, which is a spam blocking 'add-in' for ScanMail. > Don't get me wrong, it works, as well as most of the stuff > I've seen out there, but that's the problem. It's not stellar! <grin> > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:32 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: RE: [AccessD] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ] > > > Drew, > Thanks for the info, sounds like a rock solid server app. > > jb > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka > > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 7:24 PM > > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ] > > > > > > Yes, ScanMail will scan the files within a zip file. You > can even set > > how deep you want it to scan (for zips within zips). I > think we are > > set to 5 levels. We have never blocked .zip files, and I certainly > > don't plan on starting. We do block any extension that can > be run off > > the bat, such as .exe, .com, .bat, etc. Those are blocked > simply as a > > buffer, since brand new viruses aren't caught until Trend updates > > their patterns (which they do pretty fast). Once a virus is in the > > pattern though, it will strip it out of zip files. > > > > Drew > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] > > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 10:03 AM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption DLL ] > > > > > > That's a shame. > > > > I would think that security and productivity should have at least > > equal priority in the work place :o) > > > > For true security to ever happen the email security people > are going > > to have to start identifying what's in a zip file rather > than the fact > > that its a zip file. Most AV scanners can already scan zip > contents so > > I would think that if a message came through with a zip attachment > > that the zip attachment's contents could be scanned for problems > > rather than just assuming that its a problem because its a > zip. Even > > if they pulled the email > > aside and processed it out of stream rather than doing it > directly and > > clogging up the system it would be preferable to just deleting it! > > > > Hey Drew can Trend Micro's system do that? > > > > Of course if they scan the zip - then .mdbs can't be considered > > dangerous either. FMS has a free virus scanner for .mdbs I > wonder if > > its worthwhile? If one could write a script to scan .mdbs > with FMS AV > > scanner it could eliminating the whole annoying process of not > > allowing .mdb attachments. (Of course I always zip my mdbs because > > they usually compress about 80% so I'm > > back to the first argument... now I'm just babbling... > > :o) > > > > What say we get some big company to put a bounty out on the > heads of > > virus writers? > > ;o) > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Martin > > > Reid > > > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:23 AM > > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] AV Software on Servers [was > Redemption DLL ] > > > > > > > > > Thats just how we do it in work. PITA but gets us past the email > > > people. > > > > > > Martin > > > > > > > > > > Oh, yes, there always have to have some people that overdo > > > > everything, beside scanning .mdb how about not allowing .zip > > > > extensions in email?! > > > Then > > > > of course you have people who resort to changing the file > > > > extension on > > > your > > > > zipped files to .txt and instructing the person on other end to > > > change it > > > > back. That's good covenient security. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of > > > MartyConnelly > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:39 AM > > > > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] AV Software on Servers [was Redemption > > > > > DLL ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Depends on what file extensions are scanned on a network > > > server. I keep > > > > > a special stick to poke network guys who insist on scanning > > > ldb and mdb > > > > > file types among others. Scanning a 300MB file on-access can > > > > > bring things to a grinding halt. > > > > > > > > > > Stuart McLachlan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >On 20 Nov 2003 at 20:40, John W. Colby wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Stuart, > > > > > >> > > > > > >>I personally don't say it has no place in the world. The > > > unfortunate > > > > > >>reality is that there are millions of machines out > there used > > > > > by individuals > > > > > >>in their homes (or small office) who are too ignorant to run > > > > > virus checkers. > > > > > >>THESE users should indeed install the service patch so that > > > > > they only screw > > > > > >>up their own machines when the virus hits them. It > simply has > > > > > no place in a > > > > > >>business where they should be running AV software. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >Which brings us on to another question, prompted > recently by a > > > > > >client. > > > > > > > > > > > >What is your option on running anti-virus software > on network > > > > > >servers? (Assuming that you do run on-access > scanning software > > > > > >on the > > > > > >workstations) > > > > > > > > > > > >Note: > > > > > >X-posted to <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com> > > > > > >All follow ups to that list only. Please! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Marty Connelly > > > > > Victoria, B.C. > > > > > Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > AccessD mailing list > > > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > AccessD mailing list > > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > AccessD mailing list > > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/a> ccessd > Website: > http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >