Kostas Konstantinidis
kost36 at otenet.gr
Sun Oct 12 00:47:52 CDT 2003
HI Jim, I am very happy hearing someone to describe a problem that I had some months ago.... The difference between us was that I tried hardly to do the same for a client in both Greek and Arabic.... I will never again take any job like this.... Be well Kostas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 9:13 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Internationalization, Unicode and Character Sets > Hi Gustav: > > <rant mode on> > Eight months ago, I was brought into a project that required English and > Japanese. In addition to this the client had kindly bought a full shopping > cart and affiliate program written in Perl. My job was simply to design the > graphical front-end for a web site. The front end was fairly simple but > attention had to be paid to the back-end. > > We had difficulty getting the ISP to upgrade to Perl version 5.x, so that it > would recognize encoding. The package was finally completed but for one > outstanding set of issues. The designer of the Perl code did not use a SQL > back-end but some kind of flat-base filing system. English worked fine but > there was no way I could get the Japanese to work, period. None of the Perl > sorting or importing routines worked right, not without a complete re-write. > > The current project is now on hold. We did finally move the project to a PHP > and SQL back-end arrangement. No-one I know can get the thing resurrected, > it is so far over budget and I am simply out of time and patience. > > In the future, when someone comes to me with a UTF-8 project the price will > be triple and that will be after I have under gone a complete mental > examination. > <rant mode off> > > ...and that is my two cents worth. > Jim > > PS That is a great article/site on Unicode and character sets. :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 2:07 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: [AccessD] Internationalization, Unicode and Character Sets > > > Hi all > > Joel Spolsky has some comments on PHP, internationalization, Unicode > and character sets. > > /gustav > > --- > > From: Joel On Software <fogcreek at whatcounts.com> > Date: Saturday, October 11, 2003, 1:47:53 AM > Subject: [JoelOnSoftware] Unicode and Character Sets > > When I discovered that the popular web development tool PHP > has almost complete ignorance of character encoding issues, > blithely using 8 bits for characters, making it darn near > impossible to develop good international web applications, > I thought, enough is enough. > > So I have an announcement to make: if you are a programmer > working in 2003 and you don't know the basics of characters, > character sets, encodings, and Unicode, and I catch you, I'm > going to punish you by making you peel onions for 6 months in > a submarine. I swear I will. > > The Absolute Minimum Every Software Developer > Absolutely, Positively Must Know About Unicode and > Character Sets (No Excuses!) > > http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html > > Joel Spolsky > spolsky at fogcreek.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >