[AccessD] OT: Friday humor (last message)

Billy Pang tuxedo_man at hotmail.com
Tue Sep 23 22:08:01 CDT 2003


Sorry, Brett, you're right.  He didn't write that song.  I jumped the gun 
(*embarassed*).  (Francisco, I know it's not Friday but I have to write this 
message to clear Weird Al's name because I wrongfully accused him. This is 
my last message on this.)

The reason why I find that song offensive is because people ask me whether 
or not I have ever eaten cats before just because I am Chinese.  First time 
it's ok.  Second time it gets annoying.  I've seen three emails this week 
alone related to this (one was a forwarded joke, then the song, then the 
picture of man in a chinese restaurant holding a Chinese fortune cookie that 
reads "that was not chicken you ate.")

Hope that you understand where I am coming from.

Sincerely,
Billy

PS. Weird Al is pretty funny.  Long ago, I remember watching his UHF movei 
(the bit about yappie's dog treats), his funny videos (esp. like a Surgeon) 
and his brief stint on Much Music.  Didn't mean to offend any Weird Al fans 
out there.  Let's remove him from the same category as Tom Green.


>From: Brett Barabash <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor
>Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:48:45 -0500
>
> >I don't condone what Weird Al has done and sometimes I find it very
> >questionable the way he chooses to entertain or the words he chooses to
> >include in his songs.  But some people will do anything to entertain.
>
>Exactly what has Wierd Al done that you do not "condone"?
>He takes popular songs and adds humorous lyrics.
>And he certainly didn't write the song that you are talking about.
>Looking through his catalog, I'm trying to find something racially or
>morally offensive.  Sorry, I'm drawing a blank here.  Can you help me out?
>
>Comparing him to TOM GREEN?!
>Now, I find THAT offensive...
>
>(I know that this is off-topic, but it really bothers me when someone takes
>a shot at a fairly clean-cut entertainer and lumps him in with trash like
>Tom Green.  This will be the end of the discussion for me).
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Billy Pang [mailto:tuxedo_man at hotmail.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 3:28 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Cc: tuxedo_man at hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor
>
>
>Steven:
>
>Nothing legitimizes Weird Al or anyone for incorporating lyrics that 
>promote
>
>negative racial stereotypes.
>
> >From my perspective, Weird Al is an entertainer and his goal is to
>entertain
>so I don't think his true intention was to promote negative stereotypes.
>However, if the artist is anonymous, you don't know what his intensions 
>are.
>
>   So the question is, should DatabaseAdvisors allow FridayHumor emails 
>that
>contain content where racism was the true intent of the original author
>(Weird Al or anonymous)?  Naturally, this leads to the next question: so,
>should we be culturally sensitive or insensitive?
>
>I don't condone what Weird Al has done and sometimes I find it very
>questionable the way he chooses to entertain or the words he chooses to
>include in his songs.  But some people will do anything to entertain.
>Shock-comic Tom Green is another example.  If you know who he is, you may
>find his stunts are disgusting and tasteless but he does it for the shock
>value.  He's performed groteseque stunts like drinking milk straight from a
>cow or played with dead-animal road kills solely to get TV ratings for his
>show or promote his image.
>
>This stuff does not belong anywhere on TV, radio or any media but what can
>you do?  If you are going to make fun of cats, why do you have to include a
>restaurant in it and why does that restaurant have to be Chinese?  
>Sometimes
>
>it's difficult to get insensitive about this but you always have to stand 
>up
>
>for what you believe in.
>
>Hope that clears things up.  Database advisors is a fine database community
>populated with generous people who are understanding, helpful and noble.
>I've been on this list for many years and I have learned a great deal from
>many of you and I hope that this list will contine to be successful and
>thrive.
>
>Kindest regards,
>Billy
>
>
> >From: "Steven W. Erbach" <serbach at new.rr.com>
> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor
> >Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 20:34:13 -0500
> >
> >Billy,
> >
> > >> But if that song was done by someone else other than Weird Al, some
> >people
> >may find that song offensive as it promotes a negative stereotype towards
> >Chinese. <<
> >
> >Why would it make a difference if the song was done by someone other than
> >Weird Al? It wasn't, by the way; but what legitimizes Weird Al as opposed
> >to
> >somebody with too much time on their hands?
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Steve Erbach
> >Scientific Marketing
> >Neenah, WI
> >
> >"I think we should fight to preserve a country where people such as 
>Michael
> >Moore get to miss the point as badly as he misses it." - Dennis Miller
> >
> >
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