Michael R Mattys
michael.mattys at adelphia.net
Tue Sep 16 08:37:08 CDT 2003
John, Have you looked at MapPoint at all? How does it compare to ESRI & Arc? This may be seem to be OT, but I'm using Access as the back-end and VBA to run MapPoint. If ESRI is using VBA, I will definately have a look ... Mike Mattys ----- Original Message ----- From: "John B." <john at winhaven.net> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:18 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Today's GIS (was Info: Free Windows Fortran 77Compiler) > I'll bet they taught ERSI products at your school ;o) > > ESRI has a marketing machine that Microsoft can envy! > > Their Arc8 line is far superior to their own older ArcInfo series. but it is > no better than the other state of the art GIS systems of the 21st century. > > Intergraph beat them to the punch object oriented technology by a few years > but their marketing department is the anti-thesis of Microsoft's! Also, > Intergraph's "Geomedia" products don't need a go between (like ESRI's SDE) > for using Oracle's capabilities. (They've been using RDBMSs for decades > now.) > > Arc is cool though :o) > > I'd recommend that you enjoyed GIS 20 years you should go for it. Job > security, exciting product lines, a great sense of accomplishment every few > months... > > Its far less tedious than it used to be and the GIS world needs people that > understand RDBMSs. They're woefully misunderstood there :-( > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > > (AccessD) > > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 1:37 AM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Today's GIS (was Info: Free Windows Fortran > > 77Compiler) > > > > > > There has been some major chances in GIS capabilities over the last twenty > > years. The new state art is ARCInfo. It is a full object oriented data and > > graphic package with an extensive set of tools that can link it into > > virtually any data sources and combine them together. It is fully > > programmable as well. Some pretty heady stuff. As you have > > observed, the GIS > > packages are much more than just a CAD program. > > > > I may eventually start working in GIS, again...one of these days...an old > > friend is now incharge of the local government services and has > > extended an > > offer. > > > > Still debating. > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly > > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:58 PM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Today's GIS (was Info: Free Windows Fortran 77 > > Compiler) > > > > > > I took a GIS course, a couple of years back at U Vic to keep my hand in. > > It was all Unix MapSys. > > I am still surprised how many people don't think out of the box with > > GIS. I once had to find out how many people had moved in a year in a > > municipality surrounded by Ottawa. So I did it with address matching and > > maps showing the actual moves; took about a month to do. I came up with > > a figure of 30%. The urban planners started berating me about the > > figure being way too high. > > So I showed them the figures I got from Bell Canada. The number of new > > residential phone connects in the year was 33% in that municipality. At > > that time there were no cell phones. > > One phone call to Bell could have given them a ball park figure rather > > than using GIS. > > > > John B. wrote: > > > > >If you haven't worked in GIS for awhile I think you'de be pleasantly > > >surprised how far they've come. > > > > > >I was a GIS Project Manager in the late 90's just as Intergraph > > made a huge > > >switch in philosphy. They adapted Windows NT as their OS of choice and > > >jumped from Unix to NT, Eventually, after they migrated their customer > > base, > > >they got out of the Unix OS(Clipper) business all together, although they > > do > > >support using other OS based DBs via networks. > > > > > >There are basically two main companies involved in GIS now, Intergraph > > >(which is publicly held) and ESRI (which is privately owned). Intergraph > > has > > >a lot of other companies using their technologies to target specfic > > >tasks/audiences. ESRI has a lot of companies writing add-ons or > > supplements > > >to their software. > > > > > >It's an amazing set of technologies! > > > > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly > > >>Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 10:02 PM > > >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Info: Free Windows Fortran 77 Compiler > > >> > > >> > > >>Cadastral from french cadastre meaning to register. Hence a Land > > >>registry system. > > >> > > >>However don't go near the Quebec Land Registry based on old > > >>Seigneurial land titles everything was measured in perches or some > > >>other obscure 17'th century measurement. > > >> > > >> Yup I worked on two GIS cadastral mapping systems linked to land > > >>assessment databases > > >>one in Ottawa with a Honeywell 6000 GCOS mainframe and one PDP 11/70 > > >>Intergraph system in Calgary. > > >> > > >>Gustav Brock wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>Hi Jim > > >>> > > >>>Sounds impressive. But cadastral? Even my trusted "American Heritage > > >>>Dictionary" (bought in Olympia 1986 for USD 4.95) had to give up on > > >>>this. Google, however, revealed this page among others: > > >>> > > >>> http://www.co.blm.gov/cadastral/cadhome.htm > > >>> > > >>>Is that what your project was about? > > >>> > > >>>/gustav > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Wow, that dates things...I was pretty decent Fortran programmer > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>back in the > > >> > > >> > > >>>>late seventies, early eighties...I build a complete cadastral AutoCAD > > >>>>application that translated coordinates from Clarke's 1886 > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>global positional > > >> > > >> > > >>>>formula spheroid to conic and mecaider map projections, on an > > Intergraph > > >>>>system, running on an old PDP11-70 VAX. I was a lot brighter then and > > >>>>remember little about it except that one period missing in a > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>the code could > > >> > > >> > > >>>>result in 100 plus pages of errors. I hope they have improved > > the error > > >>>>handling routines. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Thanks for the heads up Marty and maybe I will take a stroll > > down memory > > >>>>lane. (Even though it is a bit over-grown.) > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Jim > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>-----Original Message----- > > >>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > >>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of > > MartyConnelly > > >>>>Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 5:09 PM > > >>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > >>>>Subject: [AccessD] Info: Free Windows Fortran 77 Compiler > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>I was looking at the Fortran95.Net compiler on this site when I came > > >>>>across this free for personal use Fortran 77 compiler. a bit dated > > >>>>but... Still useable with some of the good stat-math packs that are > > >>>>floating around on the net. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>http://www.salfordsoftware.co.uk/compilers/ftn77pe/index.shtml > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>_______________________________________________ > > >>>AccessD mailing list > > >>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > >>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > >>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>AccessD mailing list > > >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >AccessD mailing list > > >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com