[AccessD] Today's GIS

Michael R Mattys michael.mattys at adelphia.net
Tue Sep 16 08:37:08 CDT 2003


John,

Have you looked at MapPoint at all?
How does it compare to ESRI & Arc?

This may be seem to be OT, but I'm using
Access as the back-end and VBA to run
MapPoint. If ESRI is using VBA, I will definately
have a look ...

Mike Mattys



----- Original Message -----
From: "John B." <john at winhaven.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:18 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Today's GIS (was Info: Free Windows Fortran
77Compiler)


> I'll bet they taught ERSI products at your school ;o)
>
> ESRI has a marketing machine that Microsoft can envy!
>
> Their Arc8 line is far superior to their own older ArcInfo series. but it
is
> no better than the other state of the art GIS systems of the 21st century.
>
> Intergraph beat them to the punch object oriented technology by a few
years
> but their marketing department is the anti-thesis of Microsoft's! Also,
> Intergraph's "Geomedia" products don't need a go between (like ESRI's SDE)
> for using Oracle's capabilities. (They've been using RDBMSs for decades
> now.)
>
> Arc is cool though :o)
>
> I'd recommend that you enjoyed GIS 20 years you should go for it. Job
> security, exciting product lines, a great sense of accomplishment every
few
> months...
>
> Its far less tedious than it used to be and the GIS world needs people
that
> understand RDBMSs. They're woefully misunderstood there :-(
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> > (AccessD)
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 1:37 AM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Today's GIS (was Info: Free Windows Fortran
> > 77Compiler)
> >
> >
> > There has been some major chances in GIS capabilities over the last
twenty
> > years. The new state art is ARCInfo. It is a full object oriented data
and
> > graphic package with an extensive set of tools that can link it into
> > virtually any data sources and combine them  together. It is fully
> > programmable as well. Some pretty heady stuff. As you have
> > observed, the GIS
> > packages are much more than just a CAD program.
> >
> > I may eventually start working in GIS, again...one of these days...an
old
> > friend is now incharge of the local government services and has
> > extended an
> > offer.
> >
> > Still debating.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
> > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:58 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Today's GIS (was Info: Free Windows Fortran 77
> > Compiler)
> >
> >
> > I took a GIS course, a couple of years back at U Vic to keep my hand in.
> > It was all Unix MapSys.
> >  I am still surprised how many people don't think out of the box with
> > GIS. I once had to find out how many people had moved  in a year in a
> > municipality surrounded by Ottawa. So I did it with address matching and
> > maps showing the actual moves; took about a month to do. I came up with
> > a figure of  30%. The urban planners started berating me about the
> > figure being way too high.
> >  So I showed them the figures I got from Bell Canada. The number of new
> > residential phone connects in the year was 33% in that municipality. At
> > that time there were no cell phones.
> > One phone call to Bell could have given them a ball park figure rather
> > than using GIS.
> >
> > John B. wrote:
> >
> > >If you haven't worked in GIS for awhile I think you'de be pleasantly
> > >surprised how far they've come.
> > >
> > >I was a GIS Project Manager in the late 90's just as Intergraph
> > made a huge
> > >switch in philosphy. They adapted Windows NT as their OS of choice and
> > >jumped from Unix to NT, Eventually, after they migrated their customer
> > base,
> > >they got out of the Unix OS(Clipper) business all together, although
they
> > do
> > >support using other OS based DBs via networks.
> > >
> > >There are basically two main companies involved in GIS now, Intergraph
> > >(which is publicly held) and ESRI (which is privately owned).
Intergraph
> > has
> > >a lot of other companies using their technologies to target specfic
> > >tasks/audiences. ESRI has a lot of companies writing add-ons or
> > supplements
> > >to their software.
> > >
> > >It's an amazing set of technologies!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
MartyConnelly
> > >>Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 10:02 PM
> > >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Info: Free Windows Fortran 77 Compiler
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Cadastral from french cadastre meaning to register. Hence a Land
> > >>registry system.
> > >>
> > >>However don't go near the Quebec  Land Registry based on old
> > >>Seigneurial  land titles everything was measured in perches or some
> > >>other obscure 17'th century measurement.
> > >>
> > >> Yup I worked on two GIS cadastral mapping systems linked to land
> > >>assessment databases
> > >>one in Ottawa with a Honeywell 6000 GCOS mainframe and one PDP 11/70
> > >>Intergraph system in Calgary.
> > >>
> > >>Gustav Brock wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Hi Jim
> > >>>
> > >>>Sounds impressive. But cadastral? Even my trusted "American Heritage
> > >>>Dictionary" (bought in Olympia 1986 for USD 4.95) had to give up on
> > >>>this. Google, however, revealed this page among others:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.co.blm.gov/cadastral/cadhome.htm
> > >>>
> > >>>Is that what your project was about?
> > >>>
> > >>>/gustav
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Wow, that dates things...I was pretty decent Fortran programmer
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>back in the
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>late seventies, early eighties...I build a complete cadastral
AutoCAD
> > >>>>application that translated coordinates from Clarke's 1886
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>global positional
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>formula spheroid to conic and mecaider map projections, on an
> > Intergraph
> > >>>>system, running on an old PDP11-70 VAX. I was a lot brighter then
and
> > >>>>remember little about it except that one period missing in a
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>the code could
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>result in 100 plus pages of errors. I hope they have improved
> > the error
> > >>>>handling routines.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Thanks for the heads up Marty and maybe I will take a stroll
> > down memory
> > >>>>lane. (Even though it is a bit over-grown.)
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Jim
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>-----Original Message-----
> > >>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > >>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
> > MartyConnelly
> > >>>>Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 5:09 PM
> > >>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > >>>>Subject: [AccessD] Info: Free Windows Fortran 77 Compiler
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>I was looking at the Fortran95.Net compiler on this site when I came
> > >>>>across this free for personal use Fortran 77 compiler. a bit dated
> > >>>>but... Still useable with some of the good stat-math packs that are
> > >>>>floating around on the net.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>http://www.salfordsoftware.co.uk/compilers/ftn77pe/index.shtml
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
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