[AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)

Bobby Heid bheid at appdevgrp.com
Mon Apr 26 09:09:21 CDT 2004


But, IIRC, the patent(s) run out near the end of 2004.  So I guess we'll
see.  Either way, the suing company has a bunch of (place favorite
expletives here) running it. 

Funny thing is, I thought the JPEG spec was designed (as is PNG) so as to
not infringe on any patents.

Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 10:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT jpeg lawsuit (was jpg Screen shot)


Speak of the devil, we just might start seeing an increase in the use of the
png format. These is a lawsuit concerning the jpeg patent rights and license
fees (ala SCO UNIX code in Linux?):

http://internetweek.com/e-business/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=19200171

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


Most Windows programs support PNG (Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Photo Editor,
Internet Explorer, Irfanview, etc).  It just hasn't made it to the industry
standard realm the same way as other formats have.  (Magazines asking for
JPG files instead of PNGs for screenshots, for example).

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a current graphics file viewer that
doesn't support it.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot

Brett:

Would it be a problem if you wanted to send a file to someone?  Is PNG
format supported by Windows or any of the popular viewers?

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot


> By far, the absolute best format for screenshots is PNG.  
> Near-infinite color range (handles 32-bit palettes with ease), 
> lossless compression, and tiny file size.
>
> Unfortunately, it is open-source based so it hasn't made it to the 
> mainstream like other more popular formats (GIF, JPG).
>
> I wrote a global error handler that automatically grabs a full screen 
> shot of the users' workstation upon app failure and stores it as a PNG 
> on the network.  Files range between 8KB and 25KB!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
> You should make this into an article.
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped.  I eventually used Irfanview which 
> looks
like
> a very complete program.  Just got a note from the publisher - the jpg 
> is fine.  Of course, in the magazine it's going to be probably no 
> bigger than 2" x 2"
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
>
>
> > ...don't use any program that initially captures your screen as a 
> > jpeg
> ...I
> > won't go into the details here but when you save an image as a jpeg 
> > you
> are
> > using a lossy algorithm that throws away portions of the graphic 
> > ...its
> the
> > nature of the beast ...in order to give them the high quality jpeg 
> > they need, start with a decent graphics program that lets you 
> > capture the
image
> > in a high quality, uncompressed format to begin with ...Photoshop 
> > and paintshoppro are the mainstream programs ...I personally use
paintshoppro
> > (www.jasc.com) ...set your screen resolution to the highest 
> > resolution
> your
> > graphics card can support and make sure your image capture area is 
> > clean
> and
> > clear at that resolution ...capture the image and save it into un 
> > uncompressed format, preferably the native format of your graphics
program
> > ...in paintshoppro that would give you an image with a .pspimage 
> > file
tag
> > ...using that image you can do all sorts of image enhancements to 
> > make
> your
> > saved image look better ...then resize it to 300dpi ...if you 
> > started at
a
> > much lower screen resolution you might wind up with too small an 
> > image
at
> > this point ...once the image is sized/cropped/enhanced just as you'd
like
> to
> > see it, use your graphics program's feature that optimizes it and 
> > saves
it
> > as a jpeg ...use zero compression (even though the jpeg will still 
> > have
> some
> > inherent image quality loss) and make sure that you use the 
> > comparison feature to ensure minimal visible loss of image quality 
> > in the resulting file.
> >
> > ...now you have a decent sized jpeg at the desired dpi that is the 
> > best
> that
> > you can present ...hth :)
> >
> > William Hindman
> > "Always code as if the person who is maintaining or testing your 
> > code is a violent psychopath who knows where you live." William 
> > Silverstein
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:30 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] jpg Screen shot
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > A magazine wants a screen shot from my software and they would like 
> > it
to
> be
> > 300dpi.
> >
> > What's the best way to get that off the screen and into a jpg?
> >
> > MTIA,
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
>
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