DWUTKA at marlow.com
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Wed Aug 11 15:45:10 CDT 2004
I knew that ii thing would get your goat.
Ever programmed in Microsoft Scripting Editor?
Do you know how easy it is to misspell InventoryItem? How hard is it to
misspell ii? ii looks NOTHING like io, or iu, or ij, etc. However,
InventryItem doesn't seem too far off.
Try debugging ASP applications....
And as far as someone coming in 'behind' me, they'll find nice structured
classes, that handle all of the logic encapsulated in the Classes scope.
Pretty easy to follow (at least with projects in the last 2 years......no
comment on previous stuff....LOL).
Drew
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:20 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Naming Conventions
Saving your time is nowhere near as relevant as saving the time of the
person coming in after you. You put in 100 hours or 200 hours and are done.
The maintenance is hundreds or thousands of hours over many many years. If
the poor schmuk coming in has to spend 100 hours just figuring out what the
heck your naming is before they can even do anything, the company just lost
all the money you saved them and MORE. That person goes away and the next
person comes in and spends 100 hours figuring out your crazy naming
scheme... That person goes away... Hmm....
II? GIVE ME A BREAK!!!
You are not focused on the overall picture, just your convenience and
"getting it out the door".
I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that if you went to a Microsoft,
or any other large company and told them "I want to program for you and this
is what I do and why" (giving them this email below) they would politely
show you the door.
Using the fact that there is no "one standard" to justify doing whatever you
feel like is just silly.
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 4:53 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Naming Conventions
<JC>So what do I use for a counting byte? Or a counting long? The naming
convention I use (yes I realize that is I) has three character prefixes for
not only objects but data types as well. Your point about "the whole world
doesn't program the same way" is of course valid. But to program with the
convention I use I or J or K is NOT a valid variable?</JC>
That is exactly my point, that no one programs the same, which includes
'naming conventions'. Since there is no truly established (and adhered too)
naming convention, anything works, and doesn't work, just as well/unwell.
And, you proved my point, 'to program with the convention I use', is just
like saying 'I like blue, so your red car is the wrong color'. LOL.
Because there is no absolute standard, there is no way to program for those
that come after you. YOU may like the code that you write, but the next guy
may use a different standard then you, and he will probably gripe just as
much about your convention as you do about someone elses.
To really write forward code, I (try to) stick to two rules. One, stick
with the same naming convention throughout a project. No matter what your
naming convention is, changing rules in mid stream is far more agitating
then just adjusting for a new convention. Two, stick to the same
programming logic/style.
Personally, my pet peeve is goofy logic. I honestly don't care what someone
uses as a naming convention, because I look at the logic the code is
running, rather then look at the names of the variables. I have seen some
pretty bass ackwards logic in a lot of code.
Not too mention that existing Objects do not adhere to prefixed naming
conventions. It's Me.Height, not Me.dblHeight. Why? Because Height is a
property, it's going to be a number. When you look at someone's code, and
they refer to Me.Height, do you then go to the help, to find what data type
is used? No, because quite frankly, data types are irrelevant until the
logic is satisfied. If the logic works fine, you should already be familiar
with the variables in play. Then it's only a matter of looking at the dim
statements to verify data types. So when I create a Class, I use Properties
without prefixes, and I name the classes as to what they represent, without
a prefix. It's not colForms("MyForm"), it's Forms("MyForm"). It's not Dim
rs AS objADODB.objRecordset, it's Dim rs AS ADODB.Recordset. So if I build
an Class to represent an Inventory item, I would use Dim ii AS
InventoryItem.
Ack, wha?, spatter, spit, garble. That's right, Dim ii As InventoryItem.
Why? Because I code a LOT. In VBA, VB, and ASP. If I were to use:
objCurrentInventoryItem, that is 23 characters, versus TWO! I type around 80
words a minute, which is 400 characters a minute. It would take me a minute
to type 17 of those variable names, versus typing ii 200 times! That saves
time......by quite a bit.
Drew
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