John W. Colby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Thu Dec 9 19:42:47 CST 2004
OMG, back from the dead. Where the HELL have you been? I am sure various manufacturers have various deals with Microsoft. What I do know is that I have run into cases where I tried to install a "restore" disk on a computer other than the intended target and the software refused to install. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: http://folding.stanford.edu/ -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 8:19 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Good laptop cheap "If you get a version installed on a laptop, it comes in that laptop's install / restore disk which won't install on any other machine." JC ..while I agree with most of your post JC, that part simply isn't so, at least for Dells ...both the OS and the Office suite will install on any system capable of running them ...done it way too many times ...what you have to watch for with Dell and Office is that they offer an MS Office "Basic" version preinstalled which looks like a good deal until you see its missing key pieces. William Hindman ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 9:14 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good laptop cheap > Alan, > > You are definitely too demanding. Look at the prices for notebooks. > Sure you can get a DELL, you can get it with Office installed. But > you pay a LOT for the privilege. I already own office, I purchased it > separately. I own > it and I can move it from system to system as I please. If you get a > version installed on a laptop, it comes in that laptop's install / restore > disk which won't install on any other machine. That's just plain silly. > > Buy a good laptop, get the best price possible. Buy Office, get the > best price possible. > > Because you refused to buy a laptop without Office installed you > missed > out > on the best price for a laptop of that value I have EVER seen. So go > ahead, > drop an extra 350 dollars and get less of a laptop with Office on it from > Dell. > > Not me! > > In fact I became a Microsoft "partner" and bought the action pack for > $300. > I get TEN LICENSES for Office, Windows XP, SQL Server 2000 and a TON of > other stuff. Why in the world would I pay for a laptop with that stuff > installed? > > John W. Colby > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: > http://folding.stanford.edu/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawhon, > Alan C Contractor/Morgan Research > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 3:45 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good laptop cheap > > > Bob: > > You ask a good question ... I may be "too demanding" or whatever, > but, at > a > minimum, I expect a computer to come with the current version of Windows - > and a decent version of Microsoft Office - irrespective of "how good" the > price may be. (I read an article several months ago on /. to the effect > that mass market PC sellers like Dell, Gateway, Toshiba and eMachines pay > Microsoft something like $49.00 for each copy of Windows; so the software > IS > NOT a major component of system cost.) I figure that bundled "home > editions" of Windows and Office [together] probably cost the retail seller > somewhere around $125.00. > > I went down to Best Buy last Friday to check out the $750.00 (after > rebates) eMachines model M5405 notebook computer that John Colby had > tipped > us about. Once I discovered that the M5405 DID NOT have Microsoft Office > installed, (it had some puny collection of utilities that it called > "Microsoft Works"), I said "Sayonara" on that deal and left the store. > > Alan C. Lawhon > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 2:03 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good laptop cheap > > > curious, did either of these come with actual disks for windows and > such. seems there is a trend towards not including such... > > sorry if too OT, > > > bob heygood > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark Breen > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 10:38 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Good laptop cheap > > > Don't do it John, > > I never look at PC specs after I have purchased a PC, because no > matter what, you will see a better deal. > > I hope that you enjoy the new machine, > > Mark > > > > > > On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:38:59 -0500, John W. Colby > <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote: >> For all those who were not able to take advantage of the Emachines >> laptop (or didn't trust the brand) >> >> > http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1093468419744&type=product& > skuId= >> 6851267&tab=6 >> >> A nice Toshiba for $650 after rebates. Not as much machine as the > Emachines >> but still a good deal. >> >> John W. 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