[AccessD] Framework Discussion - Who's following this

Haslett, Andrew andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au
Mon Mar 8 23:32:09 CST 2004


1) d
2) b
3) b

If I were doing more Access work I would follow it more closely. While I do
love encapsulating common functionality to provide a 'cleaner' application
as you do, not sure of the rewards gained from the work put into designing
such a framework.  If its saves you troubleshooting / debugging / designing
/ maintainability time in the end, then great - go for it...But would offer
the same advantages to many others?  How technically 'savvy' would they need
to be? What sort of documentation effort would you need to put in to reach
this level?

My gut feeling is that Access *is* pretty much the framework, and presents
perhaps too many restrictions to providing a purely extensible framework.
If such a framework *is* desired, then although Access offers many
advantages in terms of user/organisation accessibility, brilliant form and
report designer etc, then I think it has to be considered that Access -may-
not be the tool for the job..

Could the time be better spent learning new technologies that better embrace
your programming style? A big gamble obviously, as it may rule-out the
Access platform (at least for a while), but what does the future offer?
Just a thought..

Cheers,
Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2004 5:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Framework Discussion - Who's following this

My objective with this discussion is to explain the concepts and
implementation of frameworks in sufficient detail that anyone willing to
learn can pick up at least a few new ideas, understand classes and how they
can solve problems, understand withevents and how using them allows us to
encapsulate entire subsystems into an object, and understand Frameworks and
how and why they might be useful.  I know that this is a rather large
objective, and that some of these subjects seem rather deep.  I am
attempting to keep the details clean and uncluttered in the beginning so
that you can not get bogged down in stuff not relevant to the specific
subject of the specific post.

In order to accomplish this objective I need to get a feeling for who is
following this discussion and at what level.  Would everyone interested in
this thread please answer the following questions:

1) 	Interest Level
	a) I already pretty much do what you are discussing, just wanted to
see how you do it.
	b) I am extremely interested in this concept and subject, would
probably use it if I can figure it out.
	c) I am interested and might start using some of this stuff.
	d) Moderately interested, probably too much work for what I see
getting out of it
	e) Marginally interested, probably never use any of it.

2)	Understanding
	a) I understand completely what is going on
	b) I mostly follow what is happening but have a couple of things I
don't really understand
	c) I am trying my best but can't really follow a lot of it
	d) Hopelessly lost, want to understand but need you to slow down a
bit.

3) 	Participation
	a) I am scanning the posts lightly to just get the basics
	b) I am reading it and attempting to follow the examples.
	c) I am reading the posts and working through the included code, and
have downloaded the example database
	d) I am reading and have downloaded the database, and have worked
through the examples in the database to see how this stuff works.

I truly appreciate your participation.

Thanks,

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


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