John W. Colby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Tue Mar 16 19:18:48 CST 2004
>...while JC can be unintentionally obtuse and pedantic when he gets on his podium, I find the overall content to be useful in my work as well as entertaining ... ROTFL. As long as I am least entertaining someone. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 8:00 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Short Date Input Mask question ...while I don't personally use a framework, I do take JC's points re standardizing common code throughout apps to heart ...I did not take his post as chastising anyone re framework use per se but rather frustration at an apparent lack of use of sound coding principles that are applicable to any professional development environment, with or without a framework. ...while JC can be unintentionally obtuse and pedantic when he gets on his podium, I find the overall content to be useful in my work as well as entertaining ...often when that wasn't his intent ...so as far as I'm concerned, he's wasting neither his time nor mine ...but that's just my two cents :) William Hindman You know the world is upside down when Bill Clinton wins a Grammy and Janet Jackson is the subject of a government sex investigation. Argus Hamilton. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haslett, Andrew" <andrew.haslett at ilc.gov.au> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 6:10 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Short Date Input Mask question > John, IMO - the reason for you spending time on creating your framework > should be for your clients - not necessarily this list. It may benefit them > if they decide to implement it - but shouldn't be your main priority.. > > As I mentioned in an earlier post, it is unlikely that many will go to the > trouble of implementing any framework that takes (what seems like) quite a > bit of extra knowledge and understanding, unless its incredibly well > documented and easy to use. > > If you can accomplish this or if its saves you time then great - but I don't > think laying a guilt trip on users here who have other ways of doing things > is appropriate.. Its your choice what you want to provide to this list - not > ours. > > Regards, > Andrew > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Wednesday, 17 March 2004 9:05 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Short Date Input Mask question > > Stuart, that is a silly thing to say, and exactly the reason that I can't > help but wonder whether anyone at all reads the posts I spend hours writing > and writing example code for. > > Of course "Access does that just fine by itself if you set the format > property to "d mmm yyyyy". > > And now, WE (you and I) have an application where our respective clients > say "I hate that format". I don't know what You do but I go into my sysvar > table and change a SysVar. The next time the app opens all date fields are > formatted however the client wants. > > What exactly DO you do? > > To a man with a search and replace program.... > > Shall I just abandon my attempts to educate this list about what frameworks > can do? Seems a shame, but it sure appears I've wasted about 30 hours so > far. > > John W. Colby > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 5:10 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Short Date Input Mask question > > > On 16 Mar 2004 at 15:40, John W. Colby wrote: > > > A great case for a framework. Define the various formats you use in > > your text boxes and then tell the framework to figure out that it's a > > date and apply a format. > > > > To a man with a hammer....... > :-) > > Access does that just fine by itself if you set the format property to "d > mmm yyyyy" or whatever you want in the particular situation. > > > -- > Lexacorp Ltd > http://www.lexacorp.com.pg > Information Technology Consultancy, Software Development,System Support. > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ ******************** > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may > contain information protected by law from disclosure. > If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender > immediately and delete this email from your system. > No warranty is given that this email or files, if attached to this > email, are free from computer viruses or other defects. 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