William Hindman
wdhindman at bellsouth.net
Wed Mar 17 11:47:24 CST 2004
...I use a variation of Drew's old calendar ...works great :) William Hindman You know the world is upside down when Bill Clinton wins a Grammy and Janet Jackson is the subject of a government sex investigation. Argus Hamilton. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca> To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 12:39 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Short Date Input Mask question > For me, mass data input didn't matter. It was simply moving back and > forth between the keyboard and the mouse(pointing device). > > I never meant to imply that RSI was confined to mouse use. > > For me (and that is all I can speak about), it was lessened by several > factors. I got an ergonomic keyboard, I switched from a mouse to a > trackball and I started keeping my hands on the keyboard and using the > pointing device less and less. > > I can't lay the blame on any one thing, but a combination of these 3 > things have helped. It still flairs up, and it is *USUALLY* caused, for > me anyway, when I am constantly moving from pointing device to > keyboard. > > If you have ADH2K, there is no need to rebuild your date picker. The > sample mdb for Chapter 8 has a really nice one. It can be used as a pop > up OR embeded as a sub-form. > > Bryan Carbonnell > bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca > > >>> Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com 17-Mar-04 10:52:20 AM >>> > Bryan, > > Point taken. This was why I made the comment about mass data input. In > point > of fact it is possible, though a bit clunky, to select a date with the > keyboard, and I should perhaps revisit the design on the form to make > it > easier to do so. > > RSI is a serious problem, and I sympathize with your for having to deal > with > it. However it's not confined to mouse use, indeed I remember it first > being > reported back in the 80's before mice very prevalent. In those days > the > blame was laid at the door of the extreme ease with which computer > keyboards > operated vs. manual typewriters. This allowed for very rapid > keystrokes, > which was thought to be the root cause of RSI. > > I also see people who have bizarre ideas about how they should > position > their keyboards and mice. In short there are lots of factors involved, > and > at the end of the day the user has to figure out the best way to use > the > d*mned machines. So, to reiterate, I think I'll take the time to > redesign my > date picker form to allow for better keyboard use of it. > > Lambert > > > From: Bryan Carbonnell [SMTP:Bryan_Carbonnell at cbc.ca] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:52 AM > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Short Date Input Mask question > > > > Lambert, > > > > It may work fine for you, but does it work for your users? Do you > force > > them to use the mouse to select the date, or can they do everything > they > > need to from the keyboard? > > > > The only reason I bring this up is that I have had RSI from moving > > between the mouse and keyboard for data entry too much. It got to > the > > point where by 10 AM I could not feel my little finger and half of > my > > lower arm becaude of it. > > > > As soon as I got one application that I used on a regular basis more > > keyboard friendly it helped. > > > > Just try to keep that in mind. I know I always do. I let users use > the > > mouse or enter with the keyboard. Their choice. > > > > Bryan Carbonnell > > bryan_carbonnell at cbc.ca > > > > > > >>> Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com 17-Mar-04 9:21:45 AM >>> > > My solution to date entry is simple - I never let user's type in a > > date. > > They always pick the date from a simple calendar form (though I don't > > > use > > the MS Calendar control). Click on a date field and up pops the date > > picker. > > While this would not be suitable, perhaps, in applications where > > massive > > numbers of dates need to be entered, I find it works just fine for > me. > > -- > _______________________________________________ > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >