[AccessD] Framework Discussion - set up question

I agree with Drew

Martin


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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:44 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework Discussion - set up question


> I have to agree with Susan on this.  Yes, it is a tool to build desktop
> applications.  However, so is Word, Excel, and even Outlook for that
matter.
> VBA is a POWERFUL tool, and can quite frankly do anything it wants too, to
a
> Windows OS.  However, The Office Suite was ALSO meant to be a tool for the
> average user.  No coding experience necessary to use any of the Office
> programs.  This includes Access.  Now, the fact that most users use
> Excel/Word, where they should be using Access, is simply due to the fact
> that most people hear the word 'database', and freak.  Personally, I think
> that is do to overly complex systems built by 'professional developers'.
>
> The fact that the entire Office Suite is both easy to use, and powerful
> enough to create actual applications, should be a kudos to Microsoft, not
a
> 'hot issue' to debate between developers.
>
> Now, what I feel needs to be 'fought' for, is the acceptance of Access
> throughout the db development world.  I get tired of listening to SQL
Server
> and Oracle developers who think of Access as a toy, instead of a database.
>
> Just my two cents.
>
> Drew
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
> Foust
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 12:20 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework Discussion - set up question
>
>
> >> I'm mostly in favor of anything that makes Access more available to
> the average user -- it IS a desktop application after all.
>
> Are you TRYING to start a fight, Susan?!!?  Most of us have been trying
> for years to convince Microsoft that this is NOT a desktop application,
> it's a tool to *build* desktop applications.  Let the flames begin!
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 10:03 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework Discussion - set up question
>
>
> No. :) I'm talking about the built-in lookup field feature that lets you
> display a related value from another table. Open a table in Design view
> and click the Lookup tab in the Properties pane.
>
> Developers soundly trash them, but I find them rather cool -- and if
> abused, is that Access's fault? ;) I'm mostly in favor of anything that
> makes Access more available to the average user -- it IS a desktop
> application after all.
>
>
> No, I don't use them, and I often have to "undo" them in Northwind when
> I'm using that db in an article example, but I can see why users would
> like and use them.
>
> Here we goooooooooooooooooooo! ;)
>
> Susan H.
>
> Susan,
> I've seen people joke about this before and I've just assumed I knew
> what they were referring to ("hard coded" delimited lists that are not
> stored in a table).
>
> Is this a correct assumption?
>
>
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