Charlotte Foust
cfoust at infostatsystems.com
Thu May 6 10:56:48 CDT 2004
I would use an autonumber to identify the record. Then I would have a separate field for an invoice number and populate it through code. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Developer [mailto:Developer at ultradnt.com] Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 7:45 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: RE: [AccessD] AutoNumber To Start From 900120 Agreed - my customers never want to see Invoice 1. They don't want to look like newbies, so I start them at 1000 (or, 10,000) Steve -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 11:30 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] AutoNumber To Start From 900120 There are exceptions. I use the AutoNumber field for our IS Request Ticket Numbers. Started it at 1000. (Just so we didn't have ticket 1, 2, etc.). There is no 'real' importance to the ticket number, other then to refer to an exact ticket. Most of the time, we are saying 'That ticket that so and so put in.....'. But if I email Mark about a particular request, I may say Request #xyzm . Where could a problem develop with that? They don't have to be entirely sequential, they have no other meaning then being the identifier for the requests they represent, which is the same purpose they have within the database itself. I have a good reason for changing a starting AutoNumber, however. Just built our online Shopping Cart. It interacts with AuthorizedNet, for credit card purchases. AuthorizedNet requires a number that cannot be repeated from one cart to the next. So, i use the CartID which represents each shopping cart. After testing, I cleaned up the live database, which removed the test carts, and compacted the database. That reset the Autonumber, so I had to bump it back up, into a range which hadn't been used yet, otherwise AuthorizedNet would have refused the transactions. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 8:42 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: RE: [AccessD] AutoNumber To Start From 900120 Quite a few replies to this question, but I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned that if some specific value of an AutoNumber field is important then the AutoNumber field is not being used properly (this is an old hobby horse of mine). An AutoNumber field is supposed to uniquely identify a specific row in a table. That's all. The user's need not ever see or know the value of such an AutoNumber field, it's used by the database to link related tables together. If the value of an AutoNumber field is important to a user then it is being given some other meaning, and that's only going to cause problems down the line. In effect you are storing two pieces of information in one field, and that's contrary to the normalization principals we should all at least be aware of. Even Microsoft seem to have woken up to this as A2K+ no longer reset AutoNumber's on compacting (thanks for testing that John). Just my 2 cents. Lambert > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Hewson [SMTP:JHewson at karta.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 9:22 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Autonumber To Start From 900120 > > > Issue? I thought that was feature. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. > Colby > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 8:23 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Autonumber To Start From 900120 > > > Uhh... yep. At least in A2K and earlier. AXP doesn't seem to do > that. In fact I just tested in A2K SR1 and it isn't resetting the > autonumber either, > so a service pack may have fixed that. But it definitely used to be an > issue so be careful. > > John W. Colby > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 8:47 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Autonumber To Start From 900120 > > > Yes this will work. One caveat though: do not compact the db until > you've got the seed number you want inserted. Compacting will reset > the autonumber. > > Jim DeMarco > > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 8:45 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Autonumber To Start From 900120 > > > One way that works with all versions of Access (AFAIK) is to append in > a dummy record specifying a value one less than the number you want. > Then go in and delete that record. The next record will pick up with > the next value > (assuming an incrementing autonumber) > > John W. Colby > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of > paul.hartland at fsmail.net > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 8:25 AM > To: accessd > Subject: [AccessD] Autonumber To Start From 900120 > > > To all, > Is there a way of telling the Autonumber where to start from in a > Database ? 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