[AccessD] FMS gone nuts?

John Bartow john at winhaven.net
Wed May 12 22:47:33 CDT 2004


Thought so too. They had a sweet (well at least not real bitter) deal at one
time. IIRC it was some coupon in the A97 Suite that gave me 40% off of the
A2k version if I ordered in some inane timeframe. I tried to order the
upgrade but I was a couple of months late and they wouldn't negotiate. I
didn't either.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 4:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] FMS gone nuts?


Don't hold your breath for a sweet deal, John.  The 97 tools don't work
with 2000 and up and the XP tools don't work with 97 and the upgrade
path makes little or no difference in the price of the new version.  The
tools have become outrageously expensive in my view, and even in our
office, we only have a single copy because we almost never use them for
anything.  I don't like the Analyzer.  I think it's about as flakey as
it can be, and I see little point in their other tools.  They started
out as Access tools, but now they try to be VB/VBA tools, and I don't
think they do a good job of it.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 9:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] FMS gone nuts?


Just to clarify, I don't dislike FMS. I, in fact, own their Access
developer suite. I rarely use a lot of it but like Jim I like the Access
Components. I just have replaced them with native Access code when I
have the time to do so. I also like the RTF control capabilities. I also
use the analytical packages when I need to. Their products save time and
that is what justifies their existence. When I'm in a crunch I will buy
something that saves time me rather than develop it myself - time is
money and time is my life! I have rarely encountered an bug/crash issue
with their products. Problem with me is the upgrade cost. I will not
upgrade to have a copy that will work with every single version of
Access. So when A97 is no longer my major dev. platform I will not be
using FMS tools (unless they give me a sweeeet deal).

I get their flyers and noticed this new startup tool and kind of
chuckled that they must monitor this forum because we do have the topic
show up every now and then. But like Gustav mentioned, it is a problem
which is easily solved. I just think there are people managing Access
apps & DBs that don't code and can't follow that logic so they will buy
this product. Fine with me.

I appreciate that other people here roll their own. Remember, we have in
the mist of this list some very talented people! That's why it is a
great list talented people that aren't too brash with people that need
help. Some lists I am on are not so nice to people that need help - in
fact the responses can be downright rude and nasty. Even when people
don't agree on a subject here they stay civil about it. For instance Ken
and Drew were passionately debating some issue awhile ago and even after
numerous attempts at trying to convince each other that their opinion
was the correct opinion neither one of them started flaming the other -
that's very cool.

John



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