[AccessD] Design Problem

Darren DICK d.dick at uws.edu.au
Mon Nov 22 16:57:24 CST 2004


Hi Richard
Just had the same design Q myself last week
The consensus was to merge My Client and Organisation tables into 1 table
and have an Identifier similar to IsClientOrOrg (Client = 1 Org = 2)
Saved me a whole bunch of issues and I have moved on from that 'difficult'
problem

Hope this helps

See ya

DD

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2004 12:16 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Design Problem


Thanks Kath, Chris for your reply - this was my original thinking but then I
had doubts. As the Recipients really may only have a name (and maybe
address) I wondered whether they should have their own table.  I will simply
have to add logic to my FE (and have fields such as IsOrganisation,
IsRecipient flags/fields on my Client table) so that when adding new
Requestor Clients it displays invoice, vat etc details - but not for
Recipient Clients.
Richard


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: 22 November 2004 11:41
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Design Problem

Richard - I think if it was me I would only have one client table, from what
you have said, but with 3 separate fields there, eg.

'Job' table:
Job ID (autonumber)
RequestorID (related to Client ID in Client table) PrincipalClientID
(related to Client ID in Client table) RecipientID (related to Client ID in
Client table)

'Client' table
Client ID (autonumber)
Name details
Address details


The fields RequestorID, PrincipalClientID and RecipientID would all relate
to one Client table.

That way all 'client' data would be stored in the one table and never
duplicated, and you would have the flexibility of having any combination of
the 3 fields in the Job table. The only mandatory field (it appears) would
be the RequestorID.

HTH

Kath

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  From: Griffiths, Richard
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:28 PM
  Subject: [AccessD] Design Problem


  Hi Group

   

  I am having a brain blockage - can anyone help. I will try to be as
  brief as possible.

  I can't figure out how to design this one.  Seems like different options
  - not sure which way to go.

  Here goes (may not be as complicated as it appears) - sorry its so long.

   

  Scenario:

   

  Client_1 (which can be an organisation or individual) can request a Job
  (interpretation) 

  The Job can be carried out on behalf of a second Client_2  or not.

  The job may have a Patient/recipient (client_3??) of the job
  (interpreation) or not.

   

  Example 1

  Charity OrgA (Client 1) requests an interpretation for a Medical Centre
  (Dr Smith - Client 2) and 

  Mrs Jones (client 3/Patient) is the person receiving teh interpretation.

   

  Example 2

  Charity OrgA (Client 1) requests an interpretation for a itself (Client
  1) and the Recipient/Patient is itself(client_1) 

   

  Example 3

  Medical Centre (was previously Client 2) requests an interpretation for
  a itself (Client 2) 

   

  What I am confused is whether to have one Client Table (that accomodates
  Orgs/Customers and Individuals/Patients)

  Or have 3 separate tables Client_1 table, Client_2 (aka Customer) table
  and a Patient/Person Table.

   

  All 3 entities hold address/contact info (Client 1 table needs to store
  invoice/finance data as well)

   

  To give a job table like this

   

  JobTable

  ========

  JobID

  ClientID_1--------->Client_1_table

  ClientID_2--------->Client_1_table

  ClientID_3--------->Client_1_table

  Other fields

  .....

   

  or

   

  JobID

  ClientID_1--------->Client_1_table

  ClientID_2--------->Client_2_table

  ClientID_3--------->Client_3_table

  Other fields

  .....

   

  The second option means that when Client_1 requests a job for itself the
  address data etc is duplicated into the Client_2 and Client_3 tables 

  - does this really matter?  Equally the Medical Centre (Client_2) may
  next week be Client_1 (request a job/service itself)

   

  Finally one more question is that I can't decide whether to do this as
  well - even thought there is a one-to-one job_client relationship

  (rather than store Client_1_ID, Client_2_ID, Client_3_ID in job table as
  above) do this????

   

  JobTable

  ========

  JobID

  Other fields

  .....

   

  JobClient_1_Table

  =================

  JobID

  Client_1_ID

  ......

   

  JobClient_2_Table

  =================

  JobID

  Client_2_ID

  ......

   

  JobClient_3_Table

  =================

  JobID

  Client_3_ID

  ......

   

   

  Any thoughts?

  Many thanks

   

  Richard

   

   

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