[AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack

John Bartow john at winhaven.net
Thu Sep 9 09:28:36 CDT 2004


No, full version! Jim steered me to buying MSDN Universal from a eBay site
rather than direct from MS. Saved big time. In fact because of the savings I
make because of this one piece of advice (that I got on this list) I now
consistently donate $120 a year ($10 per month) to AccessD to help keep it
going. I urge you all to do the same!

You get everything with MSDN Universal, including development. For the cost
of this you come out way ahead of just purchasing Office developer. You get
all the Windows OSs, You get SQL Server, SBS, VS.Net, yada, yada, yada. In
fact, before I got it all on DVD instead of CD it was almost too much!

While the action pack sounds nice, for developer (IMO) MSDN Universal 'tis
the way to go!

John B.

PS: thanks again Jim and AccessD!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 9:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack


That sounds like the price for the academic version of MSDN Universal.

Provantage has the Universal version (non academic) for $2426.49
http://tinyurl.com/6wj8j
http://www.provantage.com/buy-7MCSN005-microsoft-developer-network-msdn-univ
ersal-v7-0-subscription-534-02125-shopping.htm

Enterprise edition (non academic) $1913.79
http://tinyurl.com/5uuro
http://www.provantage.com/buy-7MCSN008-microsoft-developer-network-msdn-ente
rprise-v7-0-subscription-shopping.htm

Enterprise edition (academic) $574.79
http://tinyurl.com/5qcct
http://www.provantage.com/buy-22062410-microsoft-developer-network-msdn-acad
emic-editions-enterprise-v7-0-subscription-ae-shopping.htm

They do not (that I can see) have the Universal academic version.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 9:04 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack


John (and all)

  Not that much more.  A full Action Pack subscription is $399.  I found a
MSDN Universal subscription for $875 last year.  Your talking a difference
of only $400 bucks.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 8:20 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack


And the cost of that is MUCH more.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 6:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack


The action pack isn't really for developers in that sense.  It's for
partners so that the entire office can work with the same versions of the MS
applications.  The developers tools are in the MSDN Universal subscription.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 5:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack


John,

I didn't see Visual Studio for Applications on your list.  This would allow
setting up an installation package for Access Runtime.  I would have guessed
that this would have been included in a package for developers.  Is it
really missing?

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 11:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack

The action pack is a deal MS offers developers or companies that develop for
or sell MS stuff.  For $300-400 they give you a ton of the latest software
and 10 licenses for all of it.  You are allowed to use it in house, but not
sell it or install it on any client machines.  It
includes:

Office Professional 2003
Office Publisher 2003
Office Frontpage 2003
Office Visio Professional 2003
Office Project Professional 2003
Business contact Manager for Outlook 2003
Office OneNote 2003
MapPoint 2004 Standard Edition
Windows XP Professional
Virtual PC 2004
Office Infopath 2003
Business Solutions CRM Professional
Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition
Windows Server 2003 Web Edition
Exchange Server 2003 Enterprise Edition
Office Project Server 2003
Office Sharepoint Server 2003
Office Live Communications Server 2003
SQL Server 2000 Standard Edition (damn!)
SQL Server 2000 Service Pack 3a
SQL Server Reporting Services
Mobile Information Server 2002
Swindows Sharepoint Services Standard 2003
Windows Small Business Server 2003 Premium Edition

What is all this stuff you may ask.  No idea.

The package appears to also come with some kind of training CD for each ofr
these things.  No books, must all be on CD.  A neat little (BIG) organizer
size canvas folder to hold the disks.  Nothing to hold the training
materials (C'mon MS, another folder to hold that and the sleeves hole
punched would have made it so much more professional).

http://members.microsoft.com/partner/salesmarketing/partnermarket/action
pack
/actionpackus.aspx

Watch for wrap.

I had been looking at this package for awhile in order to bring my office
into the modern age (as defined by MS).

So there you have it.  A lot of stuff for a medium price (one year license
though!).  But it gives you 10 licenses.  I can put XP on all my desktops,
Server 2003 on both my new "server" machines, look at and possibly use
Office 2003 on my machines etc.  I have a home office with 2 "server class"
machines and 2 desktop machines, plus one modern laptop and an old POS
laptop that I am currently re-installing Win2K Pro on. Being able to get a
consistent platform on everything might be nice.

I had hoped to see 64bit OS and SQL Server included - they apparently do
exists, but not in here.  8-(

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 2:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack


What's the main advantage to having the Action pack?

"John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
I just got my MS Action pack, very nice. So much to know, so little time.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


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