Jim Dettman
jimdettman at earthlink.net
Thu Sep 9 10:37:11 CDT 2004
Brett, <<He pointed out the Microsoft has changed their distribution strategy and thus has gained more control over prices being charged by independent vendors :-(>> Bummer. Thanks for passing that link along though! My subscription is going to be up soon<g>. Jim Dettman President, Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. (315) 699-3443 jimdettman at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brett Barabash Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 11:03 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: RE: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack Jim, I talked to your contact in April before purchasing our subscriptions, and was quoted a price of $1675 each. He pointed out the Microsoft has changed their distribution strategy and thus has gained more control over prices being charged by independent vendors :-( I shopped around and ended up purchasing from these guys: http://www.softwaremore-usa.com/msun70.html FULL MSDN Universal 7.0 subscription for $1050.00. Not an academic edition, and the disks shipped immediately from MS headquarters. I would highly recommend this vendor. (Back when I purchased mine, MS also had a $300.00 rebate for purchasing this software on DVD. Unfortunately it is no more...) Bobby, Don't waste your time on an Academic subscription. The licensing agreements normally prohibit using it to develop software for clients. All, Even though the MSDN subscription (and updates) lasts for only a year, the software has a perpetual license: http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/faq/default.aspx#licensing However, there are certain limitations to the use of the software (e.g. you can use SQL Server for development, but you can't run your company's DB server with it!) -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 9:08 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: RE: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack That sounds like the price for the academic version of MSDN Universal. Provantage has the Universal version (non academic) for $2426.49 http://tinyurl.com/6wj8j http://www.provantage.com/buy-7MCSN005-microsoft-developer-network-msdn- univ ersal-v7-0-subscription-534-02125-shopping.htm Enterprise edition (non academic) $1913.79 http://tinyurl.com/5uuro http://www.provantage.com/buy-7MCSN008-microsoft-developer-network-msdn- ente rprise-v7-0-subscription-shopping.htm Enterprise edition (academic) $574.79 http://tinyurl.com/5qcct http://www.provantage.com/buy-22062410-microsoft-developer-network-msdn- acad emic-editions-enterprise-v7-0-subscription-ae-shopping.htm They do not (that I can see) have the Universal academic version. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 9:04 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: RE: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack John (and all) Not that much more. A full Action Pack subscription is $399. I found a MSDN Universal subscription for $875 last year. Your talking a difference of only $400 bucks. Jim Dettman President, Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc. (315) 699-3443 jimdettman at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 8:20 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: RE: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack And the cost of that is MUCH more. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 6:37 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: RE: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack The action pack isn't really for developers in that sense. It's for partners so that the entire office can work with the same versions of the MS applications. The developers tools are in the MSDN Universal subscription. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 5:37 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: RE: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack John, I didn't see Visual Studio for Applications on your list. This would allow setting up an installation package for Access Runtime. I would have guessed that this would have been included in a package for developers. Is it really missing? Dan Waters -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 11:02 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: RE: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack The action pack is a deal MS offers developers or companies that develop for or sell MS stuff. For $300-400 they give you a ton of the latest software and 10 licenses for all of it. You are allowed to use it in house, but not sell it or install it on any client machines. It includes: Office Professional 2003 Office Publisher 2003 Office Frontpage 2003 Office Visio Professional 2003 Office Project Professional 2003 Business contact Manager for Outlook 2003 Office OneNote 2003 MapPoint 2004 Standard Edition Windows XP Professional Virtual PC 2004 Office Infopath 2003 Business Solutions CRM Professional Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition Windows Server 2003 Web Edition Exchange Server 2003 Enterprise Edition Office Project Server 2003 Office Sharepoint Server 2003 Office Live Communications Server 2003 SQL Server 2000 Standard Edition (damn!) SQL Server 2000 Service Pack 3a SQL Server Reporting Services Mobile Information Server 2002 Swindows Sharepoint Services Standard 2003 Windows Small Business Server 2003 Premium Edition What is all this stuff you may ask. No idea. The package appears to also come with some kind of training CD for each ofr these things. No books, must all be on CD. A neat little (BIG) organizer size canvas folder to hold the disks. Nothing to hold the training materials (C'mon MS, another folder to hold that and the sleeves hole punched would have made it so much more professional). http://members.microsoft.com/partner/salesmarketing/partnermarket/action pack /actionpackus.aspx Watch for wrap. I had been looking at this package for awhile in order to bring my office into the modern age (as defined by MS). So there you have it. A lot of stuff for a medium price (one year license though!). But it gives you 10 licenses. I can put XP on all my desktops, Server 2003 on both my new "server" machines, look at and possibly use Office 2003 on my machines etc. I have a home office with 2 "server class" machines and 2 desktop machines, plus one modern laptop and an old POS laptop that I am currently re-installing Win2K Pro on. Being able to get a consistent platform on everything might be nice. I had hoped to see 64bit OS and SQL Server included - they apparently do exists, but not in here. 8-( John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 2:48 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack What's the main advantage to having the Action pack? "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote: I just got my MS Action pack, very nice. So much to know, so little time. John W. 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