Jim Lawrence (AccessD)
accessd at shaw.ca
Thu Sep 16 18:40:12 CDT 2004
Hi Kath:
It is a interest dilemma. One side the users is having difficulty
understanding the changes created to a translated word document and on the
other side accepting the complexity of building a document/web page in
FrontPage.
The resultant FP created documents will have to be stored in directories, on
your server running IIS, below the tree location
\\MyServer\Inetpub\wwwroot\WebDocumentDirectory\.... then they will be able
to be run/displayed from anywhere on LAN. When the web based files are
stored in this location your IIS server manages their display. I.e.
\\MyServer\Inetpub\wwwroot\WebDocumentDirectory\MyNewFPDocument123.html,
would run and display from anywhere accessed on your network. Note: If the
file, being accessed has an extension that is not supported/configured (not
web files like .html, .htm, .php, .pl, .asp, etc... depends on how the IIS
is setup), IIS will attempt to download the file to the station selecting
it.
Hope this is not confusing or over-stated. If it is confusing just ask for
clarification.
HTH
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:04 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Urgent help please - Can't open
htmlpageinFrontpagefromAccess form
Hi Jim - thanks for your comment - these particular users really don't
understand (or accept) that the doc. will look different once displayed in
the browser, eg. if they have created it in Word and then it is converted by
Microsoft to html....and I understand where they are coming from.
They have accepted that to create it as a web page they need to do so in
Frontpage and then they can see how it will look once it goes live. My
problem (and I can't believe that I'm still stuck on this) is providing a
link for all staff in the office to be able to open the documents they
create, edit them and save them.
It is essential that it happen from the database because I am storing a
history of documents (just path/s and filename/s) they create and they have
complex selection criteria for nominating which clients eventually *see* the
doc on the website. Given that it is so easy to create / and link to a doc
in Word or Excel from an Access form I thought it would be pretty
straightforward to do something like this in Frontpage. I'm still sure that
it is.....just not there yet.
Kath
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Lawrence (AccessD)
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 1:03 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Urgent help please - Can't open html
pageinFrontpagefromAccess form
Hi Kath:
If the file is in html format and saved with the html extension. I.e.
test.html, then any station with an active browser will display it. Even
if
the file is originally a document file it can be saved as an html file and
Microsoft will do the conversion for you...sometime it is not very pretty
but it is simple. All that has to be done for each station to view/run it
is
that the html 'document' has to be stored in a common shared directory.
HTH
Jim
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Urgent help please - Can't open html
pageinFrontpagefrom Access form
I don't have VB Drew.......
Kath
----- Original Message -----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 12:01 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Urgent help please - Can't open html page
inFrontpagefrom Access form
If you have VB, you can just 'preview' it for them in a simple VB
browser.
Drew
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 6:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Urgent help please - Can't open html page
inFrontpagefrom Access form
Thanks Eric - I am finding this so confusing.
Yes - I have IIS running here - so my file must be in a folder from
C:\Inetpub\wwwroot? I need to allow the database users to share a
common
file - can it find a web in a network location?
To go back to the basic requirements - what I am trying to do is allow
users
to click on a button in the databse which will open a document which
will
be
published to the web. I want them to be able to create and edit that
document by following a link from an access form, because the letter
that
the users 'create' will be linked to recipients from my database.
They could theoretically do it in Word or Notepad (or even within
Access),
but I want them to see how it will preview on the web before they
finalise
it, so formatting is done. I don't want to have to worry about whether
they
are running IIS or create web folders or whatever - just open and edit a
simple html file in Frontpage so they can see how it would publish. Am I
going about this the wrong way?
TIA!
Kath
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Barro
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 11:31 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Urgent help please - Can't open html page
inFrontpagefrom Access form
Kath,
FP webs expect to open these web folders in reference to the web root
folder in IIS.
For example:
You have IIS (web server) running on the machine and you have a web
called
MYWEB. IIS sees this as http://localhost/MYWEB. The physical location
(assuming the web root is C:\INETPUB\WWWROOT) is
C:\INETPUB\WWWROOT\MYWEB\.
So...if MYWEB is in a different folder...say
C:\INETPUB\WWWROOT\ANOTHERFOLDER\MYWEB\ FP won't be able to recognize
that
as a web location.
---
Eric Barro
Senior Systems Analyst
Advanced Field Services
(208) 772-7060
http://www.afsweb.com
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath
Pelletti
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 6:13 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help please - Can't open html page in
Frontpagefrom Access form
I have wasted ages on this so am now begging assistance........
I have an html file (empty at present - later it will have some basic
text)
I need to my code to
- Make a copy of the template.html file (I can do that) and
- give it a new name, eg. Template_BHP_140904.html (I can do that)
- Open the html file just created in Frontpage for users to modify the
document (That's where I'm stuck....)
My problem is a total lack of knowledge of files vs. webs and
therefore
the syntax I need. Questions: -
- Do I have to have a 'web' or 'web folder' - can't I just have an
html
file and open it?
- If I can, what is the alternative syntax to .webs.open - eg. I am
looking for a .pages.open property or .files.open ?
Here's my code so far - when I run it I get an error - There is no
web
named "/E:/SDS/Clients/CPP/WebLetters/Template.html"
------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
--
----
Private Sub CmdOpenFP_Click()
Dim oFPweb As FrontPage.Web
Dim oFP As FrontPage.Application
Dim FrontPageRunning As Boolean
'Determine whether FrontPage is alredy open or not
FrontPageRunning = IsFrontPageRunning()
If Not FrontPageRunning Then
MsgBox ("Frontpage is Closed")
Set oFP = CreateObject("Frontpage.Application")
Else
MsgBox ("Frontpage is already open")
Set oFP = GetObject(, "Frontpage.Application")
End If
'add code here later to make a copy of my file
'open file in front
page------------------------------------------------
oFP.Webs.Open ("E:\Sds\Clients\CPP\Webletters\template.html")
'STUCK HERE
' Show FrontPage
oFPweb.Activate
'Set oFP = Nothing
End Sub
------------------------------------------------------------------------
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TIA
Kath Pelletti
Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
Ph: 9505-6714
Fax: 9505-6430
KP at SDSOnline.net
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