Shamil Salakhetdinov
shamil at users.mns.ru
Thu Aug 18 10:24:24 CDT 2005
William, In fact this is an attempt to converge two Worlds.... And I don't mean USA and Russia :) ... It can be done almost transparently to your World, MS Access real life programming World I mean... No, I'm not talking about unbound vs. bound Worlds here - I have just said this technique can be used by both these Worlds.... What is important to note I think is that MS is moving to "disconnected World" (had moved in fact at last in .NET). MS is moving also into "decoupled and highly cohesive "intelligent" objects World" - and programming in such environment is very different experience... ...and it may become real World with the next version of MS Office/MS Access (although I doubt it - to make MS Access working with ADO.NET they need to have .NET Framework preinstalled on all the target PCs, which could be a problem until W98, W2K, WinXP, which do not have native support for .NET Framework are here and supported by MS (I can be wrong).).. Yes, I know no need to care now probably about these coming changes. When they will become reality then we will take care of that. I undertsand this position. Although with not that much efforts MS Access coupled with disconnected ADO.NET World may become nowadays reality... And when MS comes with their solution the transition could be almost effortless and transparent because the current trend is rather clearly seen as others answered to this thread approved... Shamil ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Hindman" <dejpolsys at hotmail.com> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications.. > ..thanks Shamil ...you work in another world ...and I don't mean Russia :) > > ..SQL Server is about as far afield as I ever get ...and unbound forms in > Access, with few exceptions, are a curse upon mankind ...imnsho :) > > William > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at users.mns.ru> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 7:45 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications.. > > > > No, William, this is not replication - here is what I mean in short: > > > > http://www.smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/articles/ddo.htm > > > > Shamil > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "William Hindman" <dejpolsys at hotmail.com> > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 3:47 AM > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications.. > > > > > >> Shamil > >> > >> ..I must be missing something ...that sounds like replication to me. > >> > >> William > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at users.mns.ru> > >> To: "!DBA-MAIN" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:28 PM > >> Subject: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications.. > >> > >> > >> > Hi All, > >> > > >> > I wanted to ask you - what about the subject? > >> > Anybody uses/interested to use MS Access client applications this way? > >> > > >> > Do I miss obvious (RTFM) stuff and such a disconnected mode is already > >> > implemented in MS Access and broadly used by MS Access developers? Yes, > > I > >> > know ADO recordsets can be used with bound MS Access forms etc. but > >> > this > >> > looks like a rather limited feature - am I wrong? > >> > > >> > What I mean is cashing data locally into mdbs, only the data needed for > >> > the > >> > currently open form(s) etc., processing this data and then updating > >> > backend > >> > database(mdb, MSDE, MS SQL, whatever...) - with all this cashing and > >> > updating made mostly automatically by a tiny framework code, based on > >> > ADO.NET...(yes, this local caching of data is not a new subject but > >> > nowadays > >> > it can be (re-)implement really scalable way with a way less efforts > > than > >> > before) > >> > > >> > Maybe MS plans to do something like that? > >> > > >> > Is that a wheel reinvention or anybody here sees such opportunity like > >> > a > >> > really useful feature in their real life projects? > >> > > >> > For me it looks like a useful feature because it could help: to get MS > >> > Access back into mainstream development area because it will allow to > >> > easily > >> > scale applications with MS Access front-ends... > >> > > >> > There are many other ideas but most of them in this "ideas pool" based > > on > >> > the subject one - if it doesn't make sense for real-life projects then > > I'd > >> > better stop working on it... > >> > > >> > What is your opinion about the subject? > >> > When you expect MS will do something like that in MS Access? > >> > > >> > Thank you, > >> > Shamil > >> > > >> > -- > >> > AccessD mailing list > >> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > > >> -- > >> AccessD mailing list > >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com