Shamil Salakhetdinov
shamil at users.mns.ru
Thu Aug 18 11:31:08 CDT 2005
Jim, I did also work disconnected but mainly bound way since MS Access 2.0. This wasn't my wish - customer wanted that, or I'd better say they did have a spec where diconnected mode was used, then they decided to use MS Access 2.0 as a development tool and then they found myself and I have had nothing to do that implement this disconnedt mode in MS Access 2.0. It worked well. Then I worked as a small team manager here and we used disconnected bound solution with MS Access 97 for a big accounting project etc. > I think ADO.Net is the same thing but > with an automatic transmission and slick features ADO.NET and .NET Framework allow to implement this mode in a tiny framework, which can be used from within MS Access or other applications. This isn't possible with ADO - or I'd better say it's a complicated and time consuming task if ADO is used. > M$ has finally, fully embraced this concept and I feel that is > where the next versions of Access are going. My bet they will have that not in the next version of MS Access but the one after it :) Thank you for your sharing of your experience in this area and for your opinion! Shamil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:00 AM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications.. > Hi Shamil: > > I have only (mostly) been using a style of disconnected ADO recordsets with > Access since 97-98. I use an Access FE for all sorts of DBs like Oracle/MS > SQL, MySQL* (*though it needs an ODBC connection :-( ) and even MDB (but > mostly just for temp files), singularly or in groups. The process is just so > fast, attaches through any reasonable connection and requires very few BE DB > licenses... clients save a bundle. I think ADO.Net is the same thing but > with an automatic transmission and slick features. It should eliminate a lot > of coding. M$ has finally, fully embraced this concept and I feel that is > where the next versions of Access are going. > > This is all my opinion of course and not meant to insight a riot. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil > Salakhetdinov > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 4:29 PM > To: !DBA-MAIN > Subject: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications.. > > Hi All, > > I wanted to ask you - what about the subject? > Anybody uses/interested to use MS Access client applications this way? > > Do I miss obvious (RTFM) stuff and such a disconnected mode is already > implemented in MS Access and broadly used by MS Access developers? Yes, I > know ADO recordsets can be used with bound MS Access forms etc. but this > looks like a rather limited feature - am I wrong? > > What I mean is cashing data locally into mdbs, only the data needed for the > currently open form(s) etc., processing this data and then updating backend > database(mdb, MSDE, MS SQL, whatever...) - with all this cashing and > updating made mostly automatically by a tiny framework code, based on > ADO.NET...(yes, this local caching of data is not a new subject but nowadays > it can be (re-)implement really scalable way with a way less efforts than > before) > > Maybe MS plans to do something like that? > > Is that a wheel reinvention or anybody here sees such opportunity like a > really useful feature in their real life projects? > > For me it looks like a useful feature because it could help: to get MS > Access back into mainstream development area because it will allow to easily > scale applications with MS Access front-ends... > > There are many other ideas but most of them in this "ideas pool" based on > the subject one - if it doesn't make sense for real-life projects then I'd > better stop working on it... > > What is your opinion about the subject? > When you expect MS will do something like that in MS Access? > > Thank you, > Shamil > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com