Shamil Salakhetdinov
shamil at users.mns.ru
Mon Aug 22 12:57:05 CDT 2005
> I'm setting deadline to have it running: this Thursday, August 23, 2005, > evening... Sorry, Thursday is 25 of August not 23th - I meant 25th as a deadline date for bBlog up&running here... Shamil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at users.mns.ru> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications.. > > I would be deeply honored to work with you on this ... > Thank you, Charlotte, for your confirmation that you're interested to work > in this project! > > > Especially if any failures are all *your* fault! LOL > Yes, all the failures will be mine if you don't mind. > Glorious results - common :) > > > I suppose this means that I have to get better > > are reading C# code, right? > Please don't do any preliminary work like starting to train yourself in > coding in C#... > > > and this looks like fun! > ...because you're right - it should be fun. > > If you program on VB.NET then running C# unit tests and samples will not be > a problem at all I think. > And I think you'll get good experience in C# "automagically" while we will > be developing this project, therefore no need to worry about that now... > > So, now it's my duty to prepare everything to start this project somewhere > end of this week. > Installing bBlog on my ISP hosting is the main task for me now. > Hopefully it will go smoothly. > I'm setting deadline to have it running: this Thursday, August 23, 2005, > evening... > > Thank you, > Shamil > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 7:29 PM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications.. > > > > Shamil, > > > > I would be deeply honored to work with you on this ... Especially if any > > failures are all *your* fault! LOL > > > > I suppose this means that I have to get better are reading C# code, > > right? <sigh> > > > > bBlog looks awesome, and this looks like fun! > > > > > > Charlotte > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru] > > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 1:34 PM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications.. > > > > > > Hi Gustav, > > > > Thank you for your welcoming and support! > > > > I have intentions to start approaching and implementing this idea here > > beginning next week with progress results published as a blog. > > > > I decided to codename this project (and its main object) as > > > > "Virtual Data Vault". > > > > It sounds generic but nothing more than making MS Access clients working > > in disconnected mode via ADO.NET with MS Access backends is planned on > > first steps. I mean first of all MS Access clients using bounds forms > > with data cached into local mdb tables... > > > > I don't have a lot of spare time but I do plan to find at least 20-30 > > minutes per day for this project. To make this project possible and > > progressing in such small chunks I see the only way to go is to use XP > > with Unit testing. I hope Charlotte Foust will assist me and will be my > > peer reviewer becaue she seems to be most interested in this project. > > How about that opportunity Charlotte? - if you will find 10 minutes per > > day for this peroject - very fine, if just 10 minutes per week - would > > be good too! If this project fails or "dies", which may happen of course > > - this will be all my fault... > > > > Most of the programming is planned to be done in C#... > > > > For blogging bBlog is currently planned - http://www.bblog.com/ - but > > still to find out will it be possible to install it here on my ISP > > hosting.... > > > > Any other good and simple to install blogging engines/opportunities? > > > > Thank you, > > Shamil > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk> > > To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:53 PM > > Subject: Svar: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications.. > > > > > > > Hi Shamil > > > > > > First, welcome back to AccessD! > > > Then, I find this a very interesting topic with a lot of perspective. > > > > > > /gustav > > > > > > >>> shamil at users.mns.ru 18-08-05 1:28 >>> > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I wanted to ask you - what about the subject? > > > Anybody uses/interested to use MS Access client applications this way? > > > > > > Do I miss obvious (RTFM) stuff and such a disconnected mode is already > > > > > implemented in MS Access and broadly used by MS Access developers? > > > Yes, I know ADO recordsets can be used with bound MS Access forms etc. > > > > > but this looks like a rather limited feature - am I wrong? > > > > > > What I mean is cashing data locally into mdbs, only the data needed > > > for the currently open form(s) etc., processing this data and then > > > updating backend > > > database(mdb, MSDE, MS SQL, whatever...) - with all this cashing and > > > updating made mostly automatically by a tiny framework code, based on > > > ADO.NET...(yes, this local caching of data is not a new subject but > > > nowadays > > > it can be (re-)implement really scalable way with a way less efforts > > > than > > > before) > > > > > > Maybe MS plans to do something like that? > > > > > > Is that a wheel reinvention or anybody here sees such opportunity like > > > > > a really useful feature in their real life projects? > > > > > > For me it looks like a useful feature because it could help: to get MS > > > > > Access back into mainstream development area because it will allow to > > > easily scale applications with MS Access front-ends... > > > > > > There are many other ideas but most of them in this "ideas pool" based > > > > > on the subject one - if it doesn't make sense for real-life projects > > > then I'd > > > better stop working on it... > > > > > > What is your opinion about the subject? > > > When you expect MS will do something like that in MS Access? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Shamil > > > > > > -- > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com