[AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications..

Shamil Salakhetdinov shamil at users.mns.ru
Mon Aug 22 12:57:05 CDT 2005


> I'm setting deadline to have it running: this Thursday, August 23, 2005,
> evening...
Sorry, Thursday is 25 of August not 23th - I meant 25th as a deadline date
for bBlog up&running here...

Shamil

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications..


> > I would be deeply honored to work with you on this ...
> Thank you, Charlotte, for your confirmation that you're interested to work
> in this project!
>
> > Especially if any failures are all *your* fault! LOL
> Yes, all the failures will be mine if you don't mind.
> Glorious results  - common :)
>
> > I suppose this means that I have to get better
> >  are reading C# code, right?
> Please don't do any preliminary work like starting to train yourself in
> coding in C#...
>
> > and this looks like fun!
> ...because you're right - it should be fun.
>
> If you program on VB.NET then running C# unit tests and samples will not
be
> a problem at all I think.
> And I think you'll get good experience in C# "automagically" while we will
> be developing this project, therefore no need to worry about that now...
>
> So, now it's my duty to prepare everything to start this project somewhere
> end of this week.
> Installing bBlog on my ISP hosting is the main task for me now.
> Hopefully it will go smoothly.
> I'm setting deadline to have it running: this Thursday, August 23, 2005,
> evening...
>
> Thank you,
> Shamil
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 7:29 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications..
>
>
> > Shamil,
> >
> > I would be deeply honored to work with you on this ... Especially if any
> > failures are all *your* fault! LOL
> >
> > I suppose this means that I have to get better are reading C# code,
> > right?  <sigh>
> >
> > bBlog looks awesome, and this looks like fun!
> >
> >
> > Charlotte
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 1:34 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications..
> >
> >
> > Hi Gustav,
> >
> > Thank you for your welcoming and support!
> >
> > I have intentions to start approaching and implementing this idea here
> > beginning next week with progress results published as a blog.
> >
> > I decided to codename  this project (and its main object) as
> >
> > "Virtual Data Vault".
> >
> > It sounds generic but nothing more than making MS Access clients working
> > in disconnected mode via ADO.NET with MS Access backends is planned on
> > first steps. I mean first of all MS Access clients using bounds forms
> > with data cached into local mdb tables...
> >
> > I don't have a lot of spare time but I do plan to find at least 20-30
> > minutes per day for this project. To make this project possible and
> > progressing in such small chunks I see the only way to go is to use XP
> > with Unit testing. I hope Charlotte Foust will assist me and will be my
> > peer reviewer becaue she seems to be most interested in this project.
> > How about that opportunity Charlotte? - if you will find 10 minutes per
> > day for this peroject - very fine, if just 10 minutes per week - would
> > be good too! If this project fails or "dies", which may happen of course
> > - this will be all my fault...
> >
> > Most of the programming is planned to be done in C#...
> >
> > For blogging bBlog is currently planned - http://www.bblog.com/ - but
> > still to find out will it be possible to install it here on my ISP
> > hosting....
> >
> > Any other good and simple to install blogging engines/opportunities?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Shamil
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
> > To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:53 PM
> > Subject: Svar: [AccessD] Disconnected MS Access cient applications..
> >
> >
> > > Hi Shamil
> > >
> > > First, welcome back to AccessD!
> > > Then, I find this a very interesting topic with a lot of perspective.
> > >
> > > /gustav
> > >
> > > >>> shamil at users.mns.ru 18-08-05 1:28 >>>
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I wanted to ask you - what about the subject?
> > > Anybody uses/interested to use MS Access client applications this way?
> > >
> > > Do I miss obvious (RTFM) stuff and such a disconnected mode is already
> >
> > > implemented in MS Access and broadly used by MS Access developers?
> > > Yes, I know ADO recordsets can be used with bound MS Access forms etc.
> >
> > > but this looks like a rather limited feature - am I wrong?
> > >
> > > What I mean is cashing data locally into mdbs, only the data needed
> > > for the currently open form(s) etc., processing this data and then
> > > updating backend
> > > database(mdb, MSDE, MS SQL, whatever...) - with all this cashing and
> > > updating made mostly automatically by a tiny framework code, based on
> > > ADO.NET...(yes, this local caching of data is not a new subject but
> > > nowadays
> > > it can be (re-)implement really scalable way with a way less efforts
> > > than
> > > before)
> > >
> > > Maybe MS plans to do something like that?
> > >
> > > Is that a wheel reinvention or anybody here sees such opportunity like
> >
> > > a really useful feature in their real life projects?
> > >
> > > For me it looks like a useful feature because it could help: to get MS
> >
> > > Access back into mainstream development area because it will allow to
> > > easily scale applications with MS Access front-ends...
> > >
> > > There are many other ideas but most of them in this "ideas pool" based
> >
> > > on the subject one - if it doesn't make sense for real-life projects
> > > then I'd
> > > better stop working on it...
> > >
> > > What is your opinion about the subject?
> > > When you expect MS will do something like that in MS Access?
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Shamil
> > >
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