[AccessD] Outlook 2003

Stuart Sanders lists at bitshk.com
Fri Dec 2 21:16:42 CST 2005


Somewhat related comment.

A friend of mine maintains several mail servers and was trying to find out 
why mail from a specific client was getting dropped/flagged as spam by his 
enhanced anti-spam changes.

Turns out (and I haven't investigated this to confirm it) the client was 
using Outlook 2003.  Apparently the latest version doesn't generate 
messageid headers which is and has been a core part of the internet email 
standard defined by RFC 2822 for years.

I just did a quick search and came up with the following quote:

"I've been having trouble getting e-mail messages to my weblog from Outlook 
2003. I figured it was something stupid that Microsoft was doing, or not 
doing, that was causing the problem. Tonight I got Seth to look at a sample 
message. The reason my server keeps rejecting messages is it expects a 
Message-ID header and isn't finding one. Outlook 2003, it seems, isn't 
generating one. 

I can't say this shocked me. Message-ID headers have been part of the IETF's 
e-mail specification forever. Every other e-mail client on the planet 
generates a Message-ID header. The Message-ID header is used by filters like 
SpamAssassin and others to calculate the likelihood of a message being spam. 
And lastly, many servers (like mine) will just outright refuse to accept 
messages without a message-ID in the header."

You can read more here: http://www.terryfrazier.com/fullThread$msgNum=1526

In any case, I had been looking at upgrading to Outlook 2003 primarily 
because of the removal of the 2GB pst size limit, but this put and 
indefinate brake on that.

I was just searching to see if this has been fixed, but can't find any 
references that say so.  So I will be staying away from Outlook 2003 for the 
forseeable future.

Stuart

-----Original Message-----
From: "John Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
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Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 21:28:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Outlook 2003

> What was the positive?
> 
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
> Tapia
> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 8:12 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Outlook 2003
> 
> I found that upgrading to 2003 was a positive result, but I had to
> upgrade
> my Office 2000 components to SP3 first.
> 
> On 12/2/05, John Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> > I made the mistake of allowing Outlook to upgrade to 2003 when I 
> > installed Office 2003.  Now my email view is just about unusable.
> >
> > I have about 50 or 60 mail folders, and I need every inch I can get
> to 
> > view them (and still can't view them all) but now the top two inches 
> > of that column is taken up with "favorite folders", which I don't 
> > need, don't use, and don't want.  Is there any way to get rid of
> that?
> >
> > Additionally the "currently selected folder" now displays "grouping
> headers"
> > for today, yesterday, yadayada taking up taking up space to tell me 
> > when the email came in.  I like that piece to display at the top, but
> > this grouping header nonsense now takes up so much room that I can't 
> > view any of the email itself below.  Is there any way to get rid of
> that?
> >
> > Is there just a way to say "let me see everything the old 2k/xp way"?
>  
> > I have no problem with new and better, if it is better, but none of 
> > the changes "enhance my email experience" IMHO.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
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