[AccessD] [Spam] Re: Why Change Field Size/was Change Field S ize

DWUTKA at marlow.com DWUTKA at marlow.com
Mon Dec 5 19:43:38 CST 2005


I concur.  Is this a changed stance for you?  I know I was on the 255 length
stance the first time around. ;)

Drew

	-----Original Message-----
	From:	John Colby [SMTP:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
	Sent:	Monday, December 05, 2005 5:43 PM
	To:	'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
	Subject:	Re: [AccessD] [Spam] Re: Why Change Field Size/was
Change Field Size

	I just ran into a field the other day.  PolicyID, guaranteed to
NEVER be
	more than 10 characters, so the field was set to 10 characters (by
the
	previous programmer).  

	Guess what?  We finally (3 years later) got a policed that was
waaaay more
	than 10 characters.  Of course the entire policy record could not go
in,
	which prevented the claim from being processed.  All users must get
out of
	the database so that I can open up the field (to 255 characters of
course). 

	I don't care WHAT the business rule is, text data can and will
change.  SSN
	is a good example.  It is guaranteed to be XXX-XX-XXXX except that
they are
	running out of SSNs (50 years later) and guess what is going to
change in
	the next few years...

	Length types of rules are not the thing (IMHO) that should be
enforced at
	the DB level.

	John W. Colby
	www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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	-----Original Message-----
	From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
	[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
	Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 6:16 PM
	To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
	Subject: [Spam] Re: [AccessD] Why Change Field Size/was Change Field
Size

	I do go on, and I'll keep going on. ;-}  If you don't know what the
field
	will be used for, why include it at all?  Yes, fields like address
may very
	well need to be 255 because they *are* a variable length.  You know
	perfectly well that I was talking about simply defaulting all fields
to 255,
	not about allowing specific fields to be that length for a purpose.


	I'm not the only one who does go on ....

	Charlotte Foust


	-----Original Message-----
	From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
	[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
Hindman
	Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:36 AM
	To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
	Subject: Re: [AccessD] Why Change Field Size/was Change Field Size


	"that it's sloppy programming and suggests that you haven't really
thought
	out the design of the table." Charlotte

	...lol ...how you do go on! ...if I'm absolutely certain of the
field's
	content then I'll size it appropriately and validate the data ...and
my
	table design tends toward a high degree of normalization so that I'm
not

	overly concerned about record size, although it is a legitmate
consideration
	...but, and this is where we may differ, if I have name, address, et
al type
	fields where the data length is unknown, I prefer to default them to
255

	rather than establishing artificial limitations for the very reason
that

	Rocky is running into ...if the guesstimate turns out to be wrong it
can be
	a rpita to fix once in distribution.

	...the only problem I've seen so far is the client using tabs within
the

	field and I now routinely prevent that.

	Willam
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