[AccessD] OT: Memory Lane. IBM Key Punch

>   I just took C++ for a spin; man is it ugly.
Jim,

When I program on C++ (rarely these days) I have a feeling I'm writing real
SOFTware - so flexible and powerful this programming language is...

...when I use VBA/VB6 - I have a feeling I'm surrounded with "iron fences",
which make me safe but in the same time immensely limit what I can do...

...I like C# and VB.NET but C++ is still far superior and it will probably
always be...

...yes VBA and VB6 and VB.NET and C# are right "what doctor ordered" RAD
tools for many nowadays business applications but modern C++ with all the
free and "for money" development tools and libraries - is far superior and
for trained and experienced developer modern C++ programming is as RAD as C#
or VB.NET programming but has many advantages because (once again) with C++
your imagination isn't limited by anything - and then you're making real
SOFTware not because you're a "bits- and pointers- jongleur" but because the
code stuff you're making is SOFT and flexible and adaptable for many use
cases(application architectures), which are closed for you when you use
VBA/VB6 and even C# and VB.NET....

No, I'm not starting C++ vs. VBA/VB6/C#/VB.NET flame - just wanted to note
that IMO C++ is nice and witty not ugly :)

Shamil

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at earthlink.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
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Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Memory Lane. IBM Key Punch


> Gustav,
>
> <<I have only "tasted" LISP. All I remember is a feeling of the wonderful
> different syntax.
> Has anyone here learned and used it?>>
>
>   Haven't myself, but I know someone that uses it quite a bit.  Up until a
> few years ago, it was widely used as the control language for Auto CAD.
The
> military was big into LISP at one time. Not sure if they still are.
>
>   I heard it was off the beaten path, but never had the chance to try it
> out.
>
>   I just took C++ for a spin; man is it ugly.  I'm sure I don't appreciate
> some of the finer points it offers yet, but so far, I don't like it.  I
hate
> having to work that hard to write a program.  The case sensitivity drives
me
> absolutely nuts and I still haven't figured out any justification for
having
> it other then to make your life miserable.
>
> Jim.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 3:07 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Memory Lane. IBM Key Punch
>
>
> Hi all, not Friday yet, but ...
>
> Joel Spolsky is sometimes rambling a bit but his recent blurb is quite
> entertaining:
>
>   The Perils of JavaSchools
>   http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/ThePerilsofJavaSchools.html
>
> He is not nice with the Java boys but what do we care.
>
> Note, however, the picture of the IBM 026 Key Punch.
> This is before my time but click on it and find a new link:
>
>   http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/029.html
>
> This is the 029 Key Punch which we used at the technical university here.
Oh
> boy, did we punch some cards! I can still remember the unique feeling of
the
> keys and the massive low-frequence sound for every punch. What a piece of
> machinery!
>
> Also, note the link to the Blub Programmers and this quote:
>
>   Lisp is worth learning for the profound
>   enlightenment experience you will have
>   when you finally get it; that experience
>   will make you a better programmer for
>   the rest of your days, even if you never
>   actually use Lisp itself a lot.
>
> I have only "tasted" LISP. All I remember is a feeling of the wonderful
> different syntax.
> Has anyone here learned and used it?
>
> /gustav
>
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