[AccessD] What is this .md1 That Is Locking My Security File?

Mark A Matte markamatte at hotmail.com
Tue Feb 8 14:10:17 CST 2005


Susan,

I tried using A97 and A2K and both said they were an unrecognized database 
format...I renamed them to *.mdb...tried the same...and got the same error.

Thanks,

Mark

>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] What is this .md1 That Is Locking My Security File?
>Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:14:58 -0500
>
>
>Have you tried changing the extension to mdb and trying to open it?
>
>Susan H.
>
>Hello All,
>
>I had never heard of an *.md1 before...but I searched my machine and found
>something in a system folder...the machine is Win2k server with A97 and
>A2K...the file is iischema-update.MD1 and there is also a
>iischema-update.MD0 .  The folder is d:\winnt\system32\inetsrv\metaback
>
>I have no idea what it is or where it came from...but it does look like it
>was created during a service pack install.
>
>Just thought I'd through it out there in case it made sense to someone.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark
>
>
> >From: "Steve Conklin (Developer at UltraDNT)" <Developer at ultradnt.com>
> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] What is this .md1 That Is Locking My Security 
>File?
> >Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 13:04:40 -0500
> >
> >I know what you mean about the keybd, I have one from M$ and it does
> >similar.
> >What I meant was, while you can compact an mde,why would you, its
> >redundant. (Well, as I write this , I am thinking if you use temp
> >tables, you would want to ....) But, its my app,I'm not compactng
> >anywhere in it, and I don't have an MDW.  I'm just trying to paint a
> >full picture to the original poster as well, but she seems not to be
> >reading her thread today!
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 12:38 PM
> >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] What is this .md1 That Is Locking My Security
> >File?
> >
> >
> >Sorry, should have been a paragraph in there.
> >
> >(I have a (expensive) Logitech wireless keyboard and yesterday it
> >started giving me grief. Skips keystrokes, won't send keystrokes at all.
> >I changed batteries and it still is acting up! Very frustrating!)
> >
> >The security I was referring to was the person who's mdw was shadowed
> >by a md1.
> >
> >An MDE can be compacted, in version A97 or A2k3 anyway. I was
> >suggesting that it was either happening as a bug or expressly via the
> >user code. If for some reason it hangs up the compaction process leaves
> >behind a copy used in the process. Now normally IIRC correctly the
> >filename is db1 or something but I don't know how hard and fast that
> >rule is. You can of course create a copy with another name in code but
> >I would guess you probably know if you're doing that or not - however
> >if this is a project you picked up from another then you may not. I
> >deal with other access developers apps which leave the compact on exit
> >thing turned on in the FE. There is no reason for it other than they
> >probably aren't aware they can turn it off. Not everyone there is as
> >good as you AccessD-ers! (and I mean that in all sincerity)
> >
> >It was all just rambling thouths I had in an attempt to help out.
> >
> >John B.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve
> >Conklin
> >(Developer at UltraDNT)
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 10:44 AM
> >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] What is this .md1 That Is Locking My Security
> >File?
> >
> >Well, there is no security on the application where I found this ...
> >And there shouldn't be any compact on an MDE. Its still a mystery to me
> >what this file is about.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 11:00 AM
> >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] What is this .md1 That Is Locking My Security
> >File?
> >
> >
> >Just a wild thought but given that it is almost the same size it sounds
> >as if it is a failed compacting process. Could there be some glitch
> >that causes this app to compact the security file?
> >
> >
> >John B.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve
> >Conklin
> >(Developer at UltraDNT)
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 9:49 AM
> >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] What is this .md1 That Is Locking My Security
> >File?
> >
> >PS:  It is too large to be a lock-file, it is ALMOST the same size as
> >the application , but not exactly the same.
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
> >Karen
> >Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 6:45 AM
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] What is this .md1 That Is Locking My Security
> >File?
> >
> >
> >My loading of the database already refers to the mdw.  I am doing a new
> >upload of the database in about 10 minutes.  That is when the md1 will
> >appear, if it is going to.  Here we go...
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> >Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 9:13 PM
> >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] What is this .md1 That Is Locking My Security
> >File?
> >
> >
> >Hi Karen:
> >
> >I have not been keeping up with the list but here is my comment.
> >
> >I think the md1 file is actually a mdw file that has been renamed and
> >incorporated as some form of security. Why do you not leave or change
> >it's extension to mdw and load your app in the standard way.
> >
> >'C:\progarm file\Office\11\msacccess.exe
> >c:\MyDirectory\MyApplication.mdb /wrkgrp
> >c:\MyDirectory\MyApplication.mdw' or 'c:\MyDirectory\MyApplication.md1'
> >
> >HTH
> >Jim
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
> >Karen
> >Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 8:19 AM
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] What is this .md1 That Is Locking My Security
> >File?
> >
> >No idea.  I'll play the waiting game.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
> >Hindman
> >Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 10:52 AM
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] What is this .md1 That Is Locking My Security
> >File?
> >
> >
> >..wag of course, but could the db be using any temp dbs and naming them
> >with the md1 extension when it creates them?
> >
> >William Hindman
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Nicholson, Karen" <cyx5 at cdc.gov>
> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> ><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 10:38 AM
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] What is this .md1 That Is Locking My Security
> >File?
> >
> >
> > >I am not that dumb.  I do admit to trusting the wrong people.  Of
> >course
> > > I get the .ldb s on the databases.  This is actually the number one.
> > > Next time it happens, I will take a screen shot and announce that I
> >have
> > > *the evidence*.  The *evidence* will surely float to the surface
> > > again
> >
> > > in the next week.  So let's wait until it happens again, maybe if I
> >can
> > > list all the files that are showing up it can be figured out.  Thanks!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> > > GregSmith at starband.net
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 10:24 AM
> > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] What is this .md1 That Is Locking My Security
> > > File?
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, I can't figure out why you're not getting the corresponding
> > > ldb file that's assocated with all of the MSAccess versions and
> > > their db's.
> >What
> > > OS are you running on?  What version of Access are you using?  Can
> > > you
> >
> > > make sure you ARE getting those ldb files on the databases?  If not,
> > > there's something really adrift here.
> > >
> > > I don't doubt you are getting what you say you are...you should know!
> > > ;)
> > > We need a few more puzzle pieces yet...but we'll get it put
> >together...
> > >
> > >
> > >> I swear that this is a one and not an L.  It is not present when
> >users
> > >> have the database is opening, using the rb.mdw file and all is well.
> > > It
> > >> only locks occassionally.  Next time it locks, I will put on my
> >specs,
> > >> but I am pretty darn sure it is a 1.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin
> >Craps
> > > -
> > >> IT Helps
> > >> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 1:44 AM
> > >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > >> Subject: RE: [AccessD] What is this .md1 That Is Locking My
> > >> Security File?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Sorry my mistake
> > >>
> > >> You are correct, I just presumed the 1 was misread with a l and did
> > > not
> > >> think any further....
> > >>
> > >> Erwin
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > >> Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens
> > >> GregSmith at starband.net
> > >> Verzonden: woensdag 2 februari 2005 16:20
> > >> Aan: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > >> Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] What is this .md1 That Is Locking My
> >Security
> > >> File?
> > >>
> > >> I've always had and ldb (small "L") file present when someone logs
> > > into
> > >> a database...and for a split db, there is one for the FE, one for
> > >> the
> > > BE
> > >> and one for the security file...but they're all ldb, not md"x" files.
> >
> > >> The security file, SecFile.mdw would have a corresponding
> > >> SecFile.ldb
> >
> > >> associated with it when someone logs in.  Same with the FE and BE
> > >> files-a corresponding *.ldb file.  I can't find any reference
> >anywhere
> > >> to mdl (small "L") on M$ or Google...
> > >>
> > >> If you login "Exclusively" to a db, then this ldb file does not
> > >> open,
> >
> > >> letting Access know that nobody else can login because the file is
> > >> 'locked' by an exclusive user.
> > >>
> > >> Greg
> > >>
> > >>> This is probably a mdl file (l not 1).
> > >>> A mdl file is always present when somebody has opened the database
> > >>> file, in this case the security file. In this file all locks are
> > >>> kepded and is needed for Access to
> > > operate.
> > >>>
> > >>> This does not cause any lockouts for users unless some bad
> > > programming
> > >>
> > >>> or other (security?) issues.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Erwin
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > >>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> >Nicholson,
> > >>> Karen
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 5:26 PM
> > >>> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > >>> Subject: [AccessD] What is this .md1 That Is Locking My Security
> > > File?
> > >>>
> > >>> Now Access is being rude to me.  I recently moved the security
> > >>> file that controls my database from each person's own hard drive
> > >>> to a centralized location on the network.  Every couple of days,
> > >>> the security file named rb.mdw has a friend, rb.md1, locking out
> > >>> most of
> >
> > >>> the users.  Does anyone know what this is and how to prevent it?
> > >> Thanks.
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