[AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?

randall.anthony at cox.net randall.anthony at cox.net
Mon Feb 21 12:34:19 CST 2005


Drew, 
I surmise you didn't read my first post to Steve's poll.  No job = no environment to practice in.  At least now in the part where it says experience, I can check off the formal training/certification part which indicates I know enough to be dangerous. <bg>

Randy.
> 
> From: DWUTKA at marlow.com
> Date: 2005/02/21 Mon PM 12:43:52 EST
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: Re: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?
> 
> Not sure why certifications did much there.  Simply using the environment
> should bring you up to speed.  I guess a cert, if setup right, might expose
> you to areas you normally don't use.....
> 
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: randall.anthony at cox.net [mailto:randall.anthony at cox.net]
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 11:37 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: Re: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?
> 
> 
> Steve,
> 
> Drew wrote:
> "They wanted a VB/SQL guy, and even though I had a lot of Access experience,
> I had very little SQL experience. However, what killed my interview, was my
> 'iffy' SQL abilities.  Not SQL
> Server, but the actual query language.  I was asked a lot about joins,
> etc,and even though I understood the questions and answers, I had a
> difficult time just 'rattling' things off.  It was because I had become very
> dependant on Access' query builder."
> 
> This was an experience I encountered also. I had one interview where they
> liked the Access and SQL, but "can you do .Net?".  Nope.  Another interview
> was just as Drew described.  This solidified my decision to seek certs.
> Whereas I knew how to spell .Net, I now (at least), know what a namespace
> is.
> 
> My curriculum included programming with VS, VB, ASP.NET, ADO.NET, XML (which
> also included sections on upgrading from ASP, etc), SQL administration and
> programming, and 2003 server administration.
> 
> Randy.
> > 
> > From: Steve Erbach <erbachs at gmail.com>
> > Date: 2005/02/21 Mon AM 11:22:02 EST
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > 	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?
> > 
> > Jim,
> > 
> > I suppose if ALL other factors were equal, then a prospective employee
> > would have an edge if he had a cert. Out of the 21 responses I got,
> > only four people had MS certs of any kind. Only one of those -- Randy
> > Anthony -- had CURRENT certifications. Amazing.
> > 
> > Steve Erbach
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:07:53 -0500, Jim Dettman
> > <jimdettman at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > Steve,
> > > 
> > >   None here.  One of the surprises I got was how little certifications
> are
> > > valued.  Seems like most really don't care about them.
> > > 
> > >   Just shows you that quality does speak for itself.
> > > 
> > > Jim.
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