Charlotte Foust
cfoust at infostatsystems.com
Tue Feb 22 10:53:12 CST 2005
Drew, You obviously don't work in a team development environment, or you would understand the importance of "easier to understand". Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 9:34 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then? Ah. Okay. I know what you mean, also, classroom environments are usually taught to the lowest common denominator. So if there is a faster method, or better method, it will lose precedence over an easier to understand method. I hate that. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Elam, Debbie [mailto:DElam at jenkens.com] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 11:23 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then? Right now I am upgrading all 3 of my store bought applications within 2 months. As I said, classrooms and study software are not the best teachers for me. I have picked up lots of things because there was a problem I had and found the solutions and used it later. In a classroom, I pick up a few things that I can relate to current or past problems, but the rest does not stick very well. For that reason, classes always take a lower priority for me than whatever work problem has come up. Needless to say, in the real world that means I do not devote the kind of attention to a class long enough for me to get to the stage of passing a test. Debbie -----Original Message----- From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 11:01 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then? "4) No certifications. I have made a stab at studying before, but real work always intruded before I got very far. I have discovered that studying in a class does not give me lots of information, though it is a great foundation. I have to use it or loose it and the best teacher has been trying to solve a problem I have in front of me." Drew -----Original Message----- From: Elam, Debbie [mailto:DElam at jenkens.com] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:58 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then? I do not understand this question. Debbie -----Original Message----- From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:37 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then? Just out of curiousity, what's the problem in front of you? Drew -----Original Message----- From: Elam, Debbie [mailto:DElam at jenkens.com] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:09 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then? 1) Equal Parts Access development and SQL Server Administration/Development. 2) Getting more freelance work, but otherwise pretty similar. SQL is becoming more prevalent, but that is more due to familiarity. Most time is spent administrating stuff that is already in place. I also have 2 SQL databases that are software packages I administer. 3) I currently work for a company. A law firm of about 400 some odd lawyers and about as many support staff. We have several people who can program in Access, but I am considered the expert on that platform. The others are primarily developing in other platforms, though naturally there is a lot of common skills. I am slowly getting more "freelance" work through my husband's company, and I will likely do that full time sometime in this coming year. Fortunately, I can rely on his sales ability so I have this option. 4) No certifications. I have made a stab at studying before, but real work always intruded before I got very far. I have discovered that studying in a class does not give me lots of information, though it is a great foundation. I have to use it or loose it and the best teacher has been trying to solve a problem I have in front of me. Debbie -----Original Message----- From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 6:05 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then? Dear Group, Could you indulge me in a little survey? 1) What's your main line of work these days? Access development, SQL Server administration/development, VB, ASP/ASP.NET, PHP...? 2) How does your work today differ from what you were doing a few years ago? Is it only that you're using newer versions of the same tools, or are you doing entirely different development work? 3) Are you independent or do you work for a company? If you work for a company, what's the size of the company and where do you fit in? 4) Do you have any Microsoft Certifications? If so, do you keep current with them, and/or have they made any difference in your current position? Thank you very much. I'm approaching a career crossroads with the decision to stay in business as an independent developer or not. I have picked up a fair amount of .NET knowledge (the hard way -- is there any other?) but I have no Microsoft certifications. 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