Charlotte Foust
cfoust at infostatsystems.com
Tue Jan 25 10:55:10 CST 2005
You must be thinking of another list! ;-> Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:cyx5 at cdc.gov] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 3:26 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: RE: [AccessD] Time for More Legal Discussion - Oh Boy An escort? I thought all of us rich programmers had Hummers and Beemers. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 3:20 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Time for More Legal Discussion - Oh Boy It is only your problem if you claimed it was possible. I tried to drive my Escort to the moon. It is definitely NOT Ford's fault I failed to get there. At some point you have to say "look, that doesn't work - and I never claimed it did." John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: http://folding.stanford.edu/ -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 3:05 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: RE: [AccessD] Time for More Legal Discussion - Oh Boy Concurrent connections isn't *necessarily* the problem. We have a client who insists on trying to run our app over a WAN where it can take an hour to load a report! That isn't a concurrency problem in our app, it's a bandwidth problem in their WAN. It's still "our" problem. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 10:45 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Time for More Legal Discussion - Oh Boy Concurrent connections is not the problem. I have a database running just fine with about 45 connections (bound forms no less). John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: http://folding.stanford.edu/ -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 1:26 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: RE: [AccessD] Time for More Legal Discussion - Oh Boy Yeah, but the guy paid over $10,000 for the system. He wants that back. What can you do when Microsoft claims that Access can handle 255 concurrent database connections at one time? We all know that is just bird-poopey. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Brett Barabash Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 1:13 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: RE: [AccessD] Time for More Legal Discussion - Oh Boy Karen, First of all, if the total loss is $3000, this is clearly a small claims court issue. A civil court won't hear a case under $5K, and it wouldn't be worth it for the client to pay a lawyer to recover such a small amount. Of course, explaining dumbing down the evidence for a small claims court is no small task. Secondly, there is the legal concept of mitigation of loss. The client will be burdened with the task of proving that they didn't know about the bug six months ago. If it can be proven that they did know about it and said nothing, the actual amount of damage will be greatly reduced. And finally, if this can be proven to be a Microsoft technology issue (security flaw, data corruption bug, etc.), and it is documented (knowledgebase, 3rd party journals, etc.), it should be easy for the developer to prove that they were not at fault. I have gone down this exact road with a MS solution provider for way more than $3000. After we reviewed the facts, it was clear to us that the problem was with the product, not the consultant. So sue Bill instead (oh, and good luck with all that!). -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 11:13 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Time for More Legal Discussion - Oh Boy What happens when a program is written for a customer using Microsoft Technology, and the Microsoft Technology is bad - its data, its logic. 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