Jim Dettman
jimdettman at earthlink.net
Thu Jul 7 18:01:25 CDT 2005
Lambert, Yeah that's about it. When a machine boots up, one of the first things it does is try to discover if there is a Master Browser on the subnet. If no, it elects itself. If yes, then an arbitration process occurs to determine which would be the better one. The Master Browser keeps the "official" list of what's on the subnet. This is what you see when you browse network neighborhood. So if the master browser is out of date or non-existent, you've got problems. The NBTSTAT -R clears the local table and requeries the master browser for a new list. This whole thing reminds me once again how good Microsoft is at taking old technology and making it "new". The P2P built into Windows is actually the old LAN Manager product LOL. That's when we went from Win 3.1 to 3.11 (Windows for Workgroups). Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 4:40 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares I suspect that the reason was that Windows does not automatically refresh the list of computers on the LAN. There's some time interval that it waits before rebroadcasting them (if that's the right term), something around 30 minutes I think. So when you powered them all up the next day the network found all the new computer names. Something like that anyway. Jim might have a better explanation. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:34 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares Hi Lambert: After renaming the computers we could not get the machines to recognize each other on the network. We had turn-off and on each system a couple of times. This morning when I can in the computers were now communicating.... Anyway the system is now working just fine and I am not sure why it was not, before but it now is. Must be from living right. Thanks for the message and help. Now I feel a little silly. Have a good day. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:50 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer. Have you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it then show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network? Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares Hi Erwin: Good thought but... The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems unusual. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT Helps Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the computer is no longer there, shares are gone to.... Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you also changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from the same workgroup in a P2P network. Erwin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information tomorrow. Hi All: Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on is an old Win98 one.) Any help in this area would be much appreciated. 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