[AccessD] OT Lost shares

Jim Dettman jimdettman at earthlink.net
Thu Jul 7 18:01:25 CDT 2005


Lambert,

  Yeah that's about it.  When a machine boots up, one of the first things it
does is try to discover if there is a Master Browser on the subnet.  If no,
it elects itself.  If yes, then an arbitration process occurs to determine
which would be the better one.

  The Master Browser keeps the "official" list of what's on the subnet.
This is what you see when you browse network neighborhood. So if the master
browser is out of date or non-existent, you've got problems.  The NBTSTAT -R
clears the local table and requeries the master browser for a new list.

  This whole thing reminds me once again how good Microsoft is at taking old
technology and making it "new". The P2P built into Windows is actually the
old LAN Manager product LOL.  That's when we went from Win 3.1 to 3.11
(Windows for Workgroups).

Jim.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
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I suspect that the reason was that Windows does not automatically refresh
the list of computers on the LAN. There's some time interval that it waits
before rebroadcasting them (if that's the right term), something around 30
minutes I think. So when you powered them all up the next day the network
found all the new computer names.

Something like that anyway. Jim might have a better explanation.

Lambert

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:34 PM
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Hi Lambert:

After renaming the computers we could not get the machines to recognize each
other on the network. We had turn-off and on each system a couple of times.
This morning when I can in the computers were now communicating....

Anyway the system is now working just fine and I am not sure why it was not,
before but it now is. Must be from living right.

Thanks for the message and help. Now I feel a little silly.

Have a good day.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:50 AM
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I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer. Have
you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it then
show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network?

Lambert

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM
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Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems
unusual.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you also
changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from the
same workgroup in a P2P network.

Erwin

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
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Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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