[AccessD] Friday humour

Heenan, Lambert Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com
Fri Jun 10 13:55:51 CDT 2005


Golly no!  I would seriously doubt if anyone on this group supports these
dogma befuddled notions!

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:46 PM
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Are any of you under the impression that I support this garbage?  They have
a point, but as I pointed out it is a really ridiculous one.  If two objects
are in motion around each other it is a matter of perspective to say which
orbits the other without a point of reference they are moving against. Space
itself is fairly reference less.  It is the motion of other planets as well
that enables us to pick a gravitational center of the solar system so we can
come up with coherent math that explains it all quite nicely.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:33 PM
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Though I makes me feel unclean to even think about responding to such orgs
as the CAI, I will simply state that the question / challenge not only
points out their inbuilt prejudice on the subject (as does the web site,
which states that no-one *will* be able to offer any proof), but also
reveals their utter ignorance of the theory that their behind the times
dogma wishes to deny.

The sun does not revolve around the Earth and the Earth does not revolve
around the sun. They both orbit a common center of gravity, to which all the
other planets in the solar system contribute.

If they are so damned certain that the sun orbits the Earth then why don't
they offer up their "proof"?

Furthermore, no scientific minded person would be silly enough to suggest
that any theory can be proven. The only thing you can do to a theory is
discover more data that *supports* it and its predictions, or new data that
*refutes* the theory. Once the refutation data is on hand the theory must be
abandoned, or used with the understanding that it has limits. Thus when
Einstein's explanation of the orbit of Mercury was shown to be correct *by
observation*, the previous Newtonian theory had been shown to be wrong. But
then we always knew it was wrong anyway. It's just that it took until
Einstein for someone to explain the differences between observation and
Newton's theory.

Lambert


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:15 PM
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Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun the
center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many others,
why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct predictions?
Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has to be
maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course the reverse
is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the Earth,
but that is a minor detail.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour


Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm

Jim 

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