MartyConnelly
martyconnelly at shaw.ca
Fri Jun 10 19:15:13 CDT 2005
Argggh. Noone knows any history. 1. Copernicus died in 1543 a week after his book "Six Books on the Revolutions of the Celestial Orbits" otherwise known as "De Revolutionibis" was finally published. In 1533 Albert Widmanstadt lectured before Pope Clement VII on the Copernican solar system. His reward consisted of a Greek codex which is preserved in the State library of Munich. Three years later Copernicus was urged by Cardinal Schonberg, then Archbishop of Capua, in a letter, dated at Rome, 1 November, 1536, to publish his discovery, or at least to have a copy made at the cardinal's expense. He was also asked to reform the Calendar by Pope Leo X. Finally Copernicus, at sixty-eight , yielded, as he writes to Paul III, to the entreaties of Cardinal Schonberg, of Bishop Giese of Culm, and of other learned men to surrender his manuscripts for publication. Bishop Giese charged Rheticus, as the ablest disciple of the great master, with the task of editing the work. It was finally edited by Osiander who took out any possible objectionable theological bits, and added a preface stating it was an hypothesis. This was done not so much to appease the Catholic church but knowing the attitude of Luther and Melanchthon against the heliocentric system, who were running around Germany at the time.Copernicus was an invalid and living in Frauenburg Germany at the time. There were 6 popes inbetween Copernicus' book and the Galileo inquisition and none objected to the heliocentric theory. On the Catholic side opposition only commenced seventy-three years later, when it was started up by Galileo. On 5 March, 1616, the work of Copernicus was forbidden by the Congregation of the Index "until corrected", and in 1620 these corrections were indicated. Nine sentences, by which the heliocentric system was represented as certain, had to be either omitted or changed. In 1820 Canon Settele, a Roman astronomy professor who was a priest tried to publish a book in which the Copernican system was treated as fact. At first, the censor of the press, a guy named Anfossi, wouldn't allow the book to be published unless Settele revised it so that it treated the Copernican system as merely a theory. But Settele appealed to Pope Pius VII, who referred the matter to the Congregation of the Holy Office. On August 16, 1820, it was decided that Settele could, in fact, treat the Copernican system as established fact, and that decision was approved by Pius VII. Pope John Paul II referred to this incident in 1992 when he said that as far as the Church was concerned, the heliocentric debate "was closed in 1820 with the imprimatur given to the work of Canon Settele." This was an address to Pontifical Academy of the Sciences. I could add corrections on Galileo and all the politics involved which was a genuine fubar but here is Cardinal Bellarmine's response. "I say that if a real proof be found that the sun is fixed and does not revolve round the earth, but the earth round the sun, then it will be necessary, very carefully, to proceed to the explanation of the passages of Scripture which appear to be contrary, and we should rather say that we have misunderstood these than pronounce that to be false which is demonstrated." I put Robert Sungenis in the Art Bell camp. Don Bozarth wrote: >I belive he was... Galileo too. Long after they had shed this mortal >coil... > >Don B. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" ><accessd at databaseadvisors.com> >Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:07 PM >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour > > > > >>Erm ... Am I wrong or was Coepernicus exonerated posthumously by the >>Church? >> >>Charlotte Foust >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] >>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:23 PM >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour >> >> >>Yes, I read the whole thing. Typical defend "the church" at all costs >>rhetoric. According to this group no scientist ever did anything right. >> >>Don B. >> >> >> >> > > > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada