[AccessD] May need an Unbound form

Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com
Thu Mar 31 08:45:15 CST 2005


Sounds like the record level locking option is not on so it's doing
page level locking. Did you say if you checked that on their system?

On Mar 31, 2005 12:25 AM, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> OK Guys,
> 
> WinXP, OfficeXP, all service packs applied for Windows as well as office.
> 
> I have a situation where a group of 2 to 6 or so people open a form of
> people info, with contact subform, making phone calls all night.  These
> people call therapists trying to fill employment contracts.  They may make
> changes to the person info (address changes etc. but mostly they just enter
> new contact records which consist of a simple date and employee (prefilled),
> call status (left message, not interested etc,) and a memo field.  All night
> long just mostly entering records in this contact subform.
> 
> The problem is that they are having HUGE locking issues.  I got rid of all
> indexes, but they were still getting locks.  An employee will start an edit
> (select a status, then fill in the memo etc.) but they may hold the record
> in the edit state for a minute or two.  If any other employee tries to start
> a new edit they get a lock, WITHOUT the lock symbol in the record selector.
> It is reproducible, it always happens and it SUCKS.  These people are not
> editing each others records, they are always building NEW records, but they
> are getting these locks and it just killed their productivity.
> 
> I made a change such that as soon as they enter any data (after update of
> any control), the record is saved.  That causes the new records to save
> immediately as well as the edits during the course of business to save ASAP.
> This helps but they are still seeing the locks occasionally, however now
> they are seeing the lock symbol in the record selector.
> 
> I checked all the usual suspects, SPs, edit modes, compact / repair etc.  I
> am just not finding the problem.  As far as I know this shouldn't be
> happening, but it is.  Has anyone seen this behavior?  Solutions?
> 
> This leads me to consider (for the first time in my career) using an unbound
> form for collecting the new data record so that the save just does a single
> write of the entire record, one time, as the contact record is finished and
> ready to store.  Needless to say this is not my forte and I the form is not
> allowing new data to be entered.  The form itself is unbound, all the
> controls are unbound, the modes are:
> 
> AllowEdits False
> AllowDeletes False
> AllowAdds False
> EditMode True
> 
> This should allow all the controls to accept data but no control can accept
> data.
> 
> I tried AllowEdits true and Editmode false, no help.  The form is not
> locked, the controls are not locked. The form was opened originally from a
> form which was passing in a filter if that means anything.  I was going to
> grab the existing record data and then unbind the form but I am now just
> looking at a plain Jane new data entry form.
> 
> Any suggestions gratefully accepted.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
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