Frank Tanner III
pctech at mybellybutton.com
Mon Oct 10 22:10:14 CDT 2005
On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 19:25 -0700, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote: > How can we take someone seriously who wants to be known as belly button? > > Rocky > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 6:38 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Firewall > > > > Cool. Best of luck in learning all that stuff. If you discover a first > > class firewall that is a load and forget, and as easy to use (or > > preferably > > easier) than a dlink etc., do let me know. PCTech at BellyButton is not the > > first to insist this is The Way. I have no intention of becoming a Linux > > geek nor a firewall geek in order to get such a thing, but if it is indeed > > load and forget, then it is definitely for me. > > > > John W. Colby > > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: > > http://folding.stanford.edu/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen > > Rosenstiel > > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 6:03 PM > > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Firewall > > > > > > John (and all), > > I just bought a copy of the new distro of Mandriva (formerly Mandrake)at > > Barnes & Noble and installed it on an old PIII box with 512m of ram. > > Installed like a breeze. It read and set up my LAN, my printer and all the > > hardware very easily. I had previously been trying to learn Linux with Red > > Hat Ver. 9 and then Fedora, but it was a PITA. Mandriva didn't take any > > longer than Windows XP either. You can set it up as a DHCP server with > > firewall or DSN server or whatever. > > > > The magazine that came with the distro -- from Linux Format -- had a > > step-by-step install guide with tutorials and it included a Linux quick > > reference wall chart. As you can tell, I was pretty impressed. Cost $20 > > but > > might be worth your while to look at. > > > > Regards, > > > > Karen Rosenstiel > > Seattle WA USA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Colby > > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:17 PM > > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Firewall > > > > PCTech, > > > > First let me say that signatures are a good thing. We know what you like > > to > > be called and can address you that way. > > > > Second, I understand the "dedicated firewall" mentality, but for Joe > > Average > > (me!) it is a non starter. The effort involved in learning enough just to > > get Linux installed is enough to kill the concept. I have done that much > > and all by itself it was enough to give me pause. Believe me, I read > > about > > such things and wish... But it ain't happening. What is simple to a > > "computer network engineer" is pretty much Greek to me. > > > > And finally, what you are discussing is what high end routers with REAL > > SPI > > etc firewalls built-in are all about are they not? It is my understanding > > that they are exactly that, real processors, running Linux, implementing a > > firewall. No hard disk to fail, no video to deal with, turns back on > > after > > a power failure, instant on, etc. I would be much more likely to go do > > that > > than spend the time and effort building a Linux box to implement a > > firewall. > > Even here, the difference between the $50 I actually spent and the $200 I > > would need to spend for the real McCoy prevented that. > > > > The simple router / NAT / firewall combination by itself pretty much > > prevents the external probing kind of stuff (unless you have port mapping > > / > > run a web server etc), and then the AV and software firewall picks up the > > pieces not handled. I have run this combination since going broadband > > about > > 4 years ago and have never had an infection, so I guess I have to say that > > is "good enough". > > > > I hate it when people rain on my parade, but I have considered this idea > > several times in the past and just said no way it was going to really > > happen. OTOH, if you put together a "put in this CD, reboot and you will > > have a hardware firewall" kind of package, I might be persuaded to try it. > > > > John W. Colby > > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > > > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > I see. So, because my mail domain is mybellybutton.com I must be a complete idiot.....