[AccessD] OT: Firewall

Nah.  It was a joke, Frank.  Welcome to the list.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Tanner III" <pctech at mybellybutton.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Firewall


> On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 19:25 -0700, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> wrote:
>> How can we take someone seriously who wants to be known as belly button?
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 6:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Firewall
>>
>>
>> > Cool.  Best of luck in learning all that stuff.  If you discover a 
>> > first
>> > class firewall that is a load and forget, and as easy to use (or
>> > preferably
>> > easier) than a dlink etc., do let me know.  PCTech at BellyButton is not 
>> > the
>> > first to insist this is The Way.  I have no intention of becoming a 
>> > Linux
>> > geek nor a firewall geek in order to get such a thing, but if it is 
>> > indeed
>> > load and forget, then it is definitely for me.
>> >
>> > John W. Colby
>> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
>> >
>> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
>> > Rosenstiel
>> > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 6:03 PM
>> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Firewall
>> >
>> >
>> > John (and all),
>> > I just bought a copy of the new distro of Mandriva (formerly 
>> > Mandrake)at
>> > Barnes & Noble and installed it on an old PIII box with 512m of ram.
>> > Installed like a breeze. It read and set up my LAN, my printer and all 
>> > the
>> > hardware very easily. I had previously been trying to learn Linux with 
>> > Red
>> > Hat Ver. 9 and then Fedora, but it was a PITA. Mandriva didn't take any
>> > longer than Windows XP either. You can set it up as a DHCP server with
>> > firewall or DSN server or whatever.
>> >
>> > The magazine that came with the distro -- from Linux Format -- had a
>> > step-by-step install guide with tutorials and it included a Linux quick
>> > reference wall chart. As you can tell, I was pretty impressed. Cost $20
>> > but
>> > might be worth your while to look at.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Karen Rosenstiel
>> > Seattle WA USA
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Colby
>> > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:17 PM
>> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Firewall
>> >
>> > PCTech,
>> >
>> > First let me say that signatures are a good thing.  We know what you 
>> > like
>> > to
>> > be called and can address you that way.
>> >
>> > Second, I understand the "dedicated firewall" mentality, but for Joe
>> > Average
>> > (me!) it is a non starter.  The effort involved in learning enough just 
>> > to
>> > get Linux installed is enough to kill the concept.  I have done that 
>> > much
>> > and all by itself it was enough to give me pause.  Believe me, I read
>> > about
>> > such things and wish... But it ain't happening.  What is simple to a
>> > "computer network engineer" is pretty much Greek to me.
>> >
>> > And finally, what you are discussing is what high end routers with REAL
>> > SPI
>> > etc firewalls built-in are all about are they not?  It is my 
>> > understanding
>> > that they are exactly that, real processors, running Linux, 
>> > implementing a
>> > firewall.  No hard disk to fail, no video to deal with, turns back on
>> > after
>> > a power failure, instant on, etc.  I would be much more likely to go do
>> > that
>> > than spend the time and effort building a Linux box to implement a
>> > firewall.
>> > Even here, the difference between the $50 I actually spent and the $200 
>> > I
>> > would need to spend for the real McCoy prevented that.
>> >
>> > The simple router / NAT / firewall combination by itself pretty much
>> > prevents the external probing kind of stuff (unless you have port 
>> > mapping
>> > /
>> > run a web server etc), and then the AV and software firewall picks up 
>> > the
>> > pieces not handled.  I have run this combination since going broadband
>> > about
>> > 4 years ago and have never had an infection, so I guess I have to say 
>> > that
>> > is "good enough".
>> >
>> > I hate it when people rain on my parade, but I have considered this 
>> > idea
>> > several times in the past and just said no way it was going to really
>> > happen.  OTOH, if you put together a "put in this CD, reboot and you 
>> > will
>> > have a hardware firewall" kind of package, I might be persuaded to try 
>> > it.
>> >
>> > John W. Colby
>> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>
> I see.  So, because my mail domain is mybellybutton.com I must be a
> complete idiot.....
>
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