[AccessD] Access Application - per unit cost

With the greatest of respect to you Jim, I would still be worried about 
working with someone who could even contemplate going with a distant 
programmer who speaks another native language. There is so much in that that 
would concern me....

I wish you luck....
Kath



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
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Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Application - per unit cost


> Hi All:
>
> Good news. After the client and I sat down for a conversation we hammered
> out a good deal. We have managed to ink-out a contract that both of us can
> live with. He admitted that he does not trust programmers after being
> 'ripped' in a couple of instances.
>
> Dealing with an old coder like me seemed calm things down and we have a 
> deal
> that may see a solid ongoing full-time contract coming out of this.
>
> Thanks so much for all your suggestions. They definitely help put things 
> in
> perspective.
>
> Jim
>
> PS So there is something that you young punk programmers do not have.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 2:44 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Application - per unit cost
>
> Thank you all for your suggestions.
>
> I have planned to verbally submit an appropriate counter offer and let the
> project go if there is no agreement
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 7:42 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Access Application - per unit cost
>
> These are interesting times.
>
> Yesterday a programmer who is working with my company went to see a new
> client as I was out of the city for a couple of days on business.
>
> The client would like a custom made complex piece of code that would 
> 'screen
> scrape' from other web sites so his site would be able to present a list 
> of
> the best prices... a good idea. We had previously agreed on principle but
> had not negotiated a price.
>
> The client presented the young programmer with his position.
> First, we were to be on an hourly rate or when ever the client called.
> Second, the client would pay the programmer directly and not go through 
> the
> company.
> Third, the maximum rate he would pay would be $12.00 and hour as he had 
> two
> 'east Indian' programmers, who had submitted bids of $5.00 per hour but 
> felt
> that he should try and support local talent.
>
> .. and a rider..
>
> The client wants all code made to be his and if we ever used similar code
> again, in another paying contract we would pay him 50% of gross profits.
>
> I must say, I am almost speechless but please feel free to comment.
>
> Jim
>
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