Charlotte Foust
cfoust at infostatsystems.com
Wed Apr 26 10:34:09 CDT 2006
We looked at the third party tools because we were porting over an app based on an Access predecessor. ActiveReports has a wizard that helps convert an Access report to .Net and in other ways is fairly similar to the Access report generator. Since we have perhaps 150 reports and subreports to convert, that weighed heavily in the decision to go with ActiveReports. The Infragistics and other controls are built on the vanilla tools offered in .Net but have been customized to allow easier access to the methods and properties we want to control. They give us the basic functionality plus exposing properties through an interface that would have to be handled in code in the native objects. It has nothing to do with .Net being buggy ... All software is buggy, after all. ActiveReports does have a chart tool, but we decided to use ComponentOne after a lot of comparisons and playing with them and pushing their limits. I haven't worked with either the ActiveReports or ComponentOne chart tools, so I can't tell you much about them except that one of our guys has produced some very slick graphics with them. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 5:30 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Tab Control - vb.net Charlotte - I am surprised by how *many* 3rd party tools you use - why do you use them for things like tabs, combos, date/time controls, text boxes? And is that something you would revisit with the new .net or have you gone that way because the new .net is buggy or ??? Are there some that you would particularly recommend? I will have a look at ActiveReports as one of my requirements for this system is for charts. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: Charlotte Foust To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:54 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Tab Control - vb.net VS uses Windows forms (Win Forms) or Web Forms, depending on the kind of app you're building. Most development shops use 3rd party controls because the granularity is greater and you can make them do things that aren't possible with the built in tools. VB, C#, and the other languages that are part of VS all use the same forms, whether they're the built in ones or 3rd party. You can also mix and match using just specific 3rd party tools with the built in tools to meet your needs. We use a lot of the built in controls, like panels, but we use 3rd party tab controls, combobboxes, textboxes, date/time controls, calendars, grids, and some others that escape me at the moment. We also use ActiveReports (which is very comfortable for Access programmers) rather than the built in Crystal reports and we use ComponentOne graphing tools. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:11 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Tab Control - vb.net Charlotte, Does VB have forms? Or is MS Forms used by default if a 3rd party product like Infragistics is not used? Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 11:42 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Tab Control - vb.net We use 3rd party controls from Infragistics, so I'm not sure about the MS forms tab control, but I'd say they should work much like the Access version except they're far more powerful, especially when combined with panels and other forms tools. VB.Net is VB 2005/VB 8. Technically, VB.Net was the version in VS 2003/VB 7, but don't worry about it. Only Microsoft pays attention to the exact name. ;o> Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 9:35 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Tab Control - vb.net Hi Charlotte, I was wondering about a tab control in VB.net as well (or should this be called VB 2005?) I depend greatly on these for my Access apps, and wonder if the VB tab control works in a similar way as those? Thanks! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:51 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Tab Control - vb.net Did you ever get an answer to this? I was on vacation for 7 working days, so I'm out of date. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 5:19 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Tab Control - vb.net Tabs on the left with horizontal text Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Tab Control - vb.net > Text on labels is normally horizontal. Do you have the tabs on the > side, or did you mean vertical text? > > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 5:04 PM > To: AccessD VB List; Access D Normal List > Subject: [AccessD] Tab Control - vb.net > > (Cross posted to accessd normal and vb.net lists) > > I am trying to create a form in vb.net with a tab control, where the > text on the labels is shown horizontally. 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