[AccessD] OT: Affiliate Program

Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software bchacc at san.rr.com
Fri Feb 10 10:37:31 CST 2006


Shamil:

Will this work for non-static IP addresses? (Is that the right 
question?)  My IP address on someone else's web site is actually my 
ISP's.  I think. Second, we don't have our own order page.  We use 
PayPal and avoided the whole gateway company interface thing.  (PayPal 
takes about the same cut as a gateway company).  So would this create a 
problem? 

I'm leaning now towards a coupon or discount code that we can save in 
the sales record which would give free shipping or $5 off and that would 
enable us to link a specific sale to an affiliate and also support 
multiple affiliates with different codes plus a unique discount code if 
we ran an ad or put a flyer into some publication.

Rocky


Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:
> Rocky,
>
> I just made a simple test - created simple HTML page on one of my test 
> sites:
>
> http://4auto.biz/apps/testAffilate.htm
>
> And from this web page made a link to
>
> http://www.smsconsulting.spb.ru/affilates/test.htm?ID=1
>
> When I went through this test route I found the following HTTP log record in 
> my logs:
>
> 10.1.1.181 - - [10/Feb/2006:18:28:57 +0300] "GET /affilates/test.htm?ID=1 
> HTTP/1.1" 304 - "http://4auto.biz/apps/testAffilate.htm" "Mozilla/4.0 
> (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.2; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 
> 2.0.50727)"
>
> where:
>
> - 10.1.1.181 is my PC's IP address in the LAN of my ISP provider;
> - http://4auto.biz/apps/testAffilate.htm - the URL of the page, which 
> generated this HTTP log record (for you it will be your affilate's URL);
> - GET /affilates/test.htm?ID=1 HTTP/1.1 - is the HTTP request generated by 
> previous URL
>
> Now you have 10.1.1.181 linked to the info that it came from 
> http://4auto.biz/apps/testAffilate.htm with ID=1 (ID defines your different 
> products, which an affilate can sell from their site).
>
> The entered page on your site (/affilates/test.htm?ID=1 in my sample) should 
> be a dynamic Web page generating the URL to follow with affilate and product 
> Id and unique coupon ID as parameters to track your customer's activity 
> until they order your software/service entering coupon Id on last step (the 
> coupon ID could be also static and corresponding HTML page aslo static - 
> then this coupon would  be a unique ID for a given affilate/your software 
> product.service pair)...
>
> You can then automatically analyze the activity of 10.1.1.181 in your HTTP 
> log records and find that it will result in opening your order page and 
> placing order  for your software or getting subscription to your service 
> using unique/fixed coupon Id - then you can pay your affilates for bringing 
> a paying customer to your site...
>
> Maybe it can be done simpler - it is new territory for me too - I'm just 
> thinking how it can be done...
>
> Shamil
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Cc: "rubin Naiman" <RRNaiman at cox.net>
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 6:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Affiliate Program
>
>
>   
>> Shamil:
>>
>> I wrote a crude app to parse the log files from my E-Z-MRP web site.  I
>> put it up on www.e-z-mrp.com/ftpguest for you to download and take a
>> look.  Maybe it will help.  My purpose was just to do page counts and if
>> you look at the query 'qryCountsofMajorPagesByMonth' you'll see what I'm
>> using this app for.  My log files look like the same format as yours.
>>
>> I always wondered what those extra fields were for.  Can they be used
>> somehow to track sales?  What we need is a way to know if someone went
>> to our site from her site, ended up on the order page and placed an
>> order.  You can download the product from our site but most people place
>> an order for it to be shipped to them.  Some of the info I've seen on
>> affiliate programs seems to indicate that they work with downloadable
>> products versus shippable.
>>
>> An alternative I was thinking about was to put some kind of coupon or
>> discount code on her site where people can link to us and have a place
>> on our order page where the buyer can key in the coupon or discount code
>> and modify the code to give the discount.  This way we could set up
>> discount codes for different affiliates or put a discount coupon as an
>> insert in a publication.
>>
>> New territory for me.  Hope the list will tolerate this bit of OT for a
>> few days.
>>
>> Thanks for the help.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>> Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:
>>     
>>> Rocky,
>>>
>>> Internet servers are usually able to keep raw logs of HTTP requests - 
>>> these
>>> are seperate ASCII files and their records are well formatted and look 
>>> like
>>> the sample log records from my site's today HTTP requests  log in the 
>>> P.S.
>>> of this message.
>>>
>>> I did plan for quite some time to write code to parse these records and 
>>> to
>>> put them into database for further analysis but I didn't have good 
>>> reasons
>>> to that for myself.
>>>
>>> Now, if nobody here will point on a ready to use solution then we can 
>>> write,
>>> test and use such TCP/IP log parser together and when well done make
>>> it available on AccessD site for download...
>>>
>>> How about this idea? I can write some code for starters on weekend...
>>>
>>> Shamil
>>>
>>> P.S. HTTP requests sample log:
>>>
>>> 139.18.2.214 - - [10/Feb/2006:00:04:09 +0300] "GET /robots.txt HTTP/1.1" 
>>> 404
>>> 297 "-" "findlinks/1.1.1-a1 
>>> (+http://wortschatz.uni-leipzig.de/findlinks/)"
>>>
>>> 70.85.193.178 - - [10/Feb/2006:00:05:57 +0300] "HEAD /shamil_s HTTP/1.1"
>>> 301 - "-" "LWP::Simple/5.803"
>>>
>>> 70.85.193.178 - - [10/Feb/2006:00:06:00 +0300] "HEAD /shamil_s/ HTTP/1.1"
>>> 200 - "-" "LWP::Simple/5.803"
>>>
>>> 70.85.193.178 - - [10/Feb/2006:00:06:03 +0300] "GET /shamil_s HTTP/1.1" 
>>> 301
>>> 334 "http://www.jaja-jak-globusy.com/" "Poirot"
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> 70.78.74.47 - - [10/Feb/2006:05:33:36 +0300] "GET
>>> /shamil_s/pics/clearday.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 5675
>>> "http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 
>>> 6.0;
>>> Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)"
>>>
>>> 70.78.74.47 - - [10/Feb/2006:05:33:36 +0300] "GET 
>>> /shamil_s/pics/pole2.gif
>>> HTTP/1.1" 200 226 "http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/" "Mozilla/4.0
>>> (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)"
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> 68.142.249.46 - - [10/Feb/2006:11:31:19 +0300] "GET /robots.txt HTTP/1.0"
>>> 404 297 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Yahoo! Slurp;
>>> http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/slurp)"
>>>
>>> 68.142.251.104 - - [10/Feb/2006:11:31:20 +0300] "GET
>>> /.net/tutorials/vb.net/ncm.htm HTTP/1.0" 200 37707 "-" "Mozilla/5.0
>>> (compatible; Yahoo! Slurp; http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/slurp)"
>>>
>>> 68.142.250.147 - - [10/Feb/2006:11:34:21 +0300] "GET
>>> /shamil_s/topics/tstmodex.htm HTTP/1.0" 200 3088 "-" "Mozilla/5.0
>>> (compatible; Yahoo! Slurp; http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/slurp)"
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 9:53 AM
>>> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Affiliate Program
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Dear List:
>>>>
>>>> I have a web site where we are selling The Sleep Advisor
>>>> (www.thesleepadvisor.com).  Someone with an alternative health site has
>>>> proposed to promote The Sleep Advisor on her site and send folks to our
>>>> site. She asks if we have an affiliate program.  Which we ain't.
>>>>
>>>> I looked into it a bit and it doesn't look trivial. Basically we need a
>>>> way to know if someone visiting our site and buying The Sleep Advisor
>>>> originated from her site.  We're hosted by Affinity and have Urchin
>>>> statistics but I don't see anything there that would be helpful right 
>>>> off.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know a slick, quick way to do this?
>>>>
>>>> MTIA
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
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>>>> Beach Access Software
>>>> 858-259-4334
>>>> www.e-z-mrp.com
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>>>       
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>> www.e-z-mrp.com
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>
>   

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Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com




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