[AccessD] Convert Access App to VB.Net (was FYI: Good news-VBAin Office 12 and beyond...)

Charlotte Foust cfoust at infostatsystems.com
Wed Feb 22 10:42:50 CST 2006


No, I'm not talking about any "power suites", and I didn't pay that much
for the Dobson books.  Yes Barker is the author of the other book.

Charlotte


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Convert Access App to VB.Net (was FYI: Good
news-VBAin Office 12 and beyond...)


Charlotte,

Thank you very much.

I have the Murach series of .NET books, two O'Reilly books on ASP.NET
(the Cookbook and Programming With), three early Microsoft books on
.NET, and a Wrox book on Crystal Reports.  My Safari subscription has
been very useful along those lines, too.  On my bookshelf I've got the
O'Reilly ADO.NET Cookbook, the Programming ASP.NET 3rd edition, and the
Programming C# 4th edition.

Are you talking about the .NET Power Suite for Visual Basic .NET or
Visual C# .NET?  I see that those are currently $2517 and $1437 without
books.  Hoo boy!  I'll bet they were pretty thorough!

I see a used copy of Rick Dobson's "Programming Microsoft SQL Server
2000 with Microsoft Visual Basic .NET" available on Amazon for $135.99!!

Otherwise he has a lot of Access-based books.  Don't see any others on
.NET really except for one on SQL Server 2005 Express.

F. Scott Barker appears to be the author of that 2002 book on ADO.NET
and VB.NET.

Thanks again.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI
http://TheTownCrank.blogspot.com

On 2/21/06, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> My employer purchased the .Net training series from AppDev and I went 
> through quite a bit of it.  I also have a couple of Rick Dobsons books

> on VB.Net and a very useful tutorial book, Database Programming with 
> Visual Basic.Net and ADO.Net.  It is out of date and doesn't use 
> Option strict, so it is a good exercise to make the examples run 
> anyhow in a current and more restrictive environment. ;o>
>
> Charlotte
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve 
> Erbach
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 2:05 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Convert Access App to VB.Net (was FYI: Good
news
> -VBAin Office 12 and beyond...)
>
>
> Charlotte,
>
> Very good little summary of the features/benefits of using .NET.
>
> Could you tell me what resources you've used to support your learning 
> curve?  That is, books, on-line code samples, hands-on courses, 
> magazines, web sites, etc.  Do you have any "mentors"?  People who you

> think are tops when it comes to writing about .NET or coding in .NET?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI
> http://TheTownCrank.blogspot.com
>
>
> On 2/21/06, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> > I don't know where to start, Dan.  It would be a total rewrite, but 
> > the program logic could be used to build the new app.  Learning 
> > curve is steep because *everything* is an object and doing anything 
> > to it (like populating a string that already has text) creates a NEW

> > object with the same name.  You don't do things the same way, but it

> > is much easier to get at and manipulate data, to create datasets 
> > that include related fields from another table, to create reusable 
> > code.  The list is endless.  ADO.Net is GREAT, and I *liked* ADO.  
> > Building forms and user controls is quite different from Access 
> > because you have so much control over the objects and their 
> > behavior.  Reports can be used in our web-based app or on Windows 
> > without modifications.  Do you want to
>
> > bind different parts of a form or report to different data sources? 
> > No problem.  Do you want to bind controls to the top, left, right, 
> > bottom of the container so they move when the object resizes?  No 
> > problem.  Do you want a panel to fill its allocated space and stay 
> > that way through form resizes?  No problem.  Do you want custom 
> > behavior from a control? Create your own and use it in you apps.
> >
> > I'm a fan, as you can tell, but it is also easier to sell clients on

> > .Net apps than on Access applications, justifiably or not.  We build

> > our apps so that we can connect to either an Access or SQL Server 
> > backend without changing any of the code, which makes it easy to 
> > switch a client over when they need the added capacity of SQL 
> > Server.
>
> > It takes planning and learning and effort, so don't do it unless you

> > are willing to commit to those things and you are willing to use 
> > managed code.  There is no point at all in building one-off code in 
> > .Net.  That's a waste of time and energy.
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan 
> > Waters
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:22 AM
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Convert Access App to VB.Net (was FYI: Good
> > news -VBA in Office 12 and beyond...)
> >
> >
> > OK Charlotte,
> >
> > What are these goodies?  And the big question - what does it take to

> > do the conversion (software, learning curve time, how to make 
> > reports,
>
> > convert forms vs. modules vs. reports, etc.)
> >
> > For an Access application that has ~50K lines of code, is it worth 
> > it?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Dan
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